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Atalanta V Juventus ![juventus]()
19:45 UK
Champions League – Game 2 [01st October 2014] – Vicente Calderón Stadium
Juventus
Preview to follow
Confirmed Lineup:
3-5-2 : Buffon; Caceres, Bonucci, Chiellini; Lichtsteiner, Vidal, Marchisio, Pogba, Evra; Llorente, Tevez
Juventus bench: Storari, Ogbonna, Padoin, Asamoah, Pereyra, Morata, Giovinco
Injuries
Andrea Pirlo, Andrea Barzagli and Luca Marrone
Atletico Scouting
Coming soon
Confirmed Lineup:
4-4-2 : Moya; Juanfran, Miranda, Godin, Ansaldi; Koke, Tiago, Arda Turan; Saul; Raul Garcia; Mandzukic
Atletico Madrid bench: Oblak, Siqueira, Gimenez, Mario Suarez, Cerci, Griezmann, Raul Jimenez
Injuries
Cristian Rodríguez (Returning to fitness)
Formation
First!
Also Forza Juve.
Mandzukic behind Garcia, is that right? Also in the predicted line-up you have the Atalanta team Rav 😛
He busy yo! :p probably didnt have time to proof read
I’m sure he doesn’t mind people telling him there are some minor mistakes 😛
I’d like to hear it at least
damn. i was hoping for another 3-0 thumping 😛
make it 0-3 🙂 .. Juve is the away team… quite nervous on this match
No protest from me there 😛
Totti might not be the most classy of people but he really is a world class player. i’ve got nothing but respect for him as a player
yup.. true that. Italy needs a-holes and intimidating players like him.
nope. look at del piero. pure class. italy needs someone like him or baggio
It makes me sad tho. I know Del Piero couldve been doing the exact same thing.
except for fucking agnelli had to force him out
did you people see goal.com getting hacked? woah incredible.
https://oi61.tinypic.com/qqeu5i.jpg
Someone needs some friends
So what clubs in the Cl do you guys rate stronger than us?
Bayern, Real, Barcelona, Chelsea
This is fair. Man City maybe a better squad but we certainly have better tactics and are Juventus.
There is honestly no team that I fear our squad playing besides Bayern.
i fear real…..always have.
I always enjoy the games with Real. Great memories arise of Del Piero goals 🙂
Dont even get me started on those beautiful memories!
Big game today Regazzi,
Athletico is a team that fight until the last whistle. With grinta. I expect a very tentative start from Juve. I think in order to win, Juve need to keep the tempo up and away from dangerous plays. Athletico will try to win the ball up the field, Juve can use that to the advantage. Vidal, Tevez, Pogba all have hugely important roles in connecting the ball quickly up the field. Lichtstiener should be very involved too. The deciding factor could simply be Llorente showing up for the first time this season.
I’m feeling a big game from nando today
Id love it. He’s back in Spain, vs. an old rival. Perfect time!
Also, Alessio Cerci is starting today.
Gabi is out for Athletico Madrid too.
My prediction two goals Cerci two goals Mandzukic.
Pirlo will score from a free kick for us.
https://bcove.me/y94znqyx
Manchester United fans put this video together lool apparently they want Vidal, Ogbonna for 65m Euros in January or next summer.
lol
for 65m they can have Vidal, itll be 80 if they want both.
ATLETI ATLETI ATLETI MERDA ALE……LOOOOOL
this is gonna be real tough….but we can do these lads,WE ARE JUVENTUS
Gabbiadini goal to win derby vs Genoa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycReh9Rjo58
this guy is great
I heard we will sell him to Dortmund next season.
I heard we are wearing green tonight?
Green is not allowed.
I am a Juve fan but I think Atletico are way stronger than us and we will be humiliated 4-1.
I hope Agnelli did his job with UEFA officials to save us from getting humiliated worse.
never get smashed liked that dude
Obvious troll is obvious.
You’re not a Juve fan if you think Juve will win.
well troll or whatever,im a huge juve fan and believe we can get a positive result,maybe a win?either way……your prediction doesnt merit a juve fan.
So to be a Juventus fan you must be a optimist and not a realist?
at any level of football your a realist arn’t you?…chill dude
keep your comments in order or you’ll get blocked. simple as.
Never said anything wrong… Blocked for stating my opinion?
I’m a Juve fan and I think Juve are weaker than Atletico. How is that against the rules?
We get a lot of trolls who just come and post stuff over and over. No offence intended. I;m all for open opinion and debate.
FORZA JUVE ALE……..FORZA JUVE ALE
coman’s not even on the bench. i wonder what caused his sudden fall from grace under allegri
We are playing in green?…. What is this bullshit?
we gonna blind them if all else fails lol…just kidding!i like it,like a draw or 3 points more though.
lol, would be funny if that worked. I want us to play black and white. I don’t see why it’s not possible against red/white/blue.
i know dude.
You have any streams? :p
Dazsports.org
I’m watching on tv.
edit: this does not add anything to my comment, you disappoint me :/
Thank you
How do i disappoint you :p
The green jerseys are awesome.
We run it.
Dafuq are we wearing????????????
Prediction: 2-1 or 1-0. I don’t see us trying to extend our lead once we go ahead.
you are very wrong. 4-1 will be the score I think.
Mandzukic(23) ——– Pirlo (48)
Mandzukic(27)
Diego(65)
Gabi (90+1)
I think the plan is not only to make them blind, but make them vomit first
Hahahah we look like a group of Buffon’s running around. Maybe we’re trying to make the ref not know where Buffon is so everyone can use their hand.
I think our 3 man defense may highly benefit us
Pogba is such a badass.
Pogba is gonna do great today. He doe really well against players who run at him
Holy crap you’re right. Pogba seeems to be the only player that’s able to hold the ball.
They’re already playing dirty football…
I wouldnt say dirty
I would. Both are playing dirty.
I would it consider playing rough, not necessarily dirty
Bane just took off his mask.
atleti know how to press like hell
and in other news, Malmo are up by 1-0 against Olympiakos
thats good i’d say
yeah. wouldnt want the greeks pulling away in the group
Playing pretty much exactly how we shouldnt be playing, Atletico getting too much room and chances
Seems my commentators are a little biased. Apparently Atletico has been the better team all game, despite losing in possession 64-36, losing in pass success 82-72 and losing in aerial success 55-45. They are beating us in tackles and have 2 more shots at this point. I dont see how any of that equates to Atletico being the better team.
Because they are spanish..
That must be it.
Its a pretty dull game overall, best chance was for Atletico but thats all I could say about it xd
So many biased commentators
It just seems that most commentators favor Spanish teams…
The game is on espn2 for us
Im at work.
fuck
Yup that was to be expected, we dont do much to stop them
That was luck. Spanish fucking luck.
It was, but this happens nearly every time we sit back and let the other team dictate. You should never ever let the other team push this much up, they are just bound to get in the right position to score at some point. We dont even have a shot on target so far
I just want to see 1 Italian team get the same lucky bullshit goals that Spanish teams get.
Italians never do lol.
Cant count on that to win a game, we played it so wrong, simple as that. Still not a single shot on target and the game is nearly over
433 now?
It seems
Fuck Atletico. Fucking cowards.
What is Allegri waiting for to use subs..
wow, now morata for vidal. 3 striekrs.
We have not seen this at Juve since… 1897? xD
Carrera did it once too :p
haha i remember that. he went 2-3-5 for about half an hour against cesena. it worked lol.
Yeah that was it, was so awesome :p
4 attackers now
with 3 minutes remaining, ffs
When all else fails, bring on all the forwards.
#AllegriTactics101 #Dai
Can’t say he isn’t going for it I suppose
I respect that, but he did it a little too late. Morata should have come on around 70th, 75th min. Llorente did nothing.
I think what bothers me the most is the fact the italians still get the diving reference the most.. The spanish are never off the bloody floor.
One of the many reasons I hate Spanish football, Spanish people and Spain in general. Screw that entire country.
Flop around some more you Spanish c**t. Spanish time wasting 101. “You touched me, I fall.”
Atletico leading and still in our half, thats what we should have done all game long.
Not a single shot on target, what a bullshit game.
Wake up Juve, this tactic doesn’t work in Europe. All we did was sit back and use long balls, with zero effect. Ofc we dont get results like this.
Its like whenever we get close to the box, we are afraid to take the initiative and shoot. We pass too much around the box and in the attacking 1/3, and all that does is allow the other team to setup their defense better.
It takes ages, we pass and pass some more and then just pass back to a CB. He passes to another CB and then there is a long ball, that doesnt come near a Juve player.
Meanwhile Atletico all over our half.
Thats what happens every game. The ancient Italian style of football doesnt work, and hasnt worked in years. Its like they pass the ball around until they find an opening, and if they dont, drop or square the ball to someone who does the same thing.
Exactly, thats why I was preaching for an attacking game. Once again we dont perform, i’m so gutted
This ref is annoying as well, stuff your cards where the sun doesn’t shine already
Fuck Atletico Madrid, Forca Real Madrid.
No. Fuck Spain and their lucky BS. Commentators can call that a great pass and finish all they want, but it doesnt mask the fact that it was, once again, Spanish luck.
True. Fuck Spain, as a matter of fact, fuck all Spanish sport players.
except 😉
so now we lose and malmo win. the whole group is tied with 3 points
this is the first game we lost in which pirlo didn’t play
I dont care it was a lucky goal, we didn’t even get a ball near their net. Bullshit tactics, how many more seasons will it take before we use something different than long balls?
Once again we play bad on European level. Atletico didnt deserve the win either but fuck, Juve sure didn’t do anything that should have made us win the game
and once again, 3-5-2 comes to bite us in the ass in europe
It wasnt the formation. They legitimately got lucky. Lucky goal + Italian tactics of waiting for the right opportunity to attack, instead of creating chances for yourself.
we didn’t deserve to win. they created the better chances and deserved to score. what did we do? keep possession and pass it around. we’re not some tiki taka shit team. we need to be direct.
We deserved a draw, thats the result I expected away to Atletico. They created the better chances, but lost in almost every other category.
it the chances that matter. they defended well and created the better chances. the point of the game isn’t to see who gets the most possession or the most pass success percentage.
Its not always the chances that matter. Ive witnessed many teams win a game 1-0, but lose in every category, including shots/chances created. Not too long ago I saw the stats for a game where a team had like 15 shots to 2, and lost.
well yea that’s were defending comes in. atletico defended just as good as we did. we weren’t willing to take any risks while they were.
It aint hard to defend with 35 players before the goal…
Thats the problem with Italian football nowadays. They arent taking the risks they need to take, and are just waiting for the game to play itself into their favor. Our next coach should be foreign, someone who wasnt brought up playing boring “wait and see” football.
i’m still hoping to get deschamps. his teams are always very well organized defensively and know how to take the right amount of risks
Hes probably the best foreign choice. Of course, Id still prefer Guidolin, but maybe a change of “scenery” is what is needed on the sideline. Deschamps played, and coaches football that is very good looking. Very un-italian football, which is why I like Guidolin, he took an Udinese team, and despite being the smaller team half the time, didnt allow them to play Italian football. Every game I saw, that he was in charge of, was very fun to watch.
They deserved to score???? Lmao.
also, wtf did asamoah not play?
I doubt he wouldve made difference
at least he can get past his man. evra would just get the ball and cross it in. he didn’t even make it to the byline. asamoah can take players on
I’m afraid it’s politics, Evra didn’t come to Juve to sit on the bench 🙁 IMO Asamoah is twice as good as Evra
The only good news: the group is still wide open. Maybe if we would actually try to win in the next games, we can make it.Drop this sit back and long ball tactic already
Llorente should be benched the next 3 games, or until he pulls his head out of his ass, because hes playing like a sally.
his hold up play is great but with tevez dropping so deep, there’s nothing llorente can do
Llorente, the next Amauri. Good for 1 season, and then a waste of a spot from then on. Hes looked awful all season, he needs to sit until his confidence or form returns.
i’d definitely bench him but his form hasn’t been poor. it’s just the tactics he’s in. with tevez so deep, he’s all by himself up front. can’t lay it off to anyone, he doesn’t have the pace to get past defenders, so he becomes just a guy who wins the ball up front and loses it
Morata would probably just work better in this team/tactic. He was so fucking frustrated that he only got 5 minutes to play..
Morata needs to start.
Yea
True. He’s more mobile. We need morata until pirlo comes back and tevez can again move further forward
I doubt Pirlo wouldve made any difference today. Hes been marked out of games like these and even lesser games likes more times than not for the past 2 years.
No but when pirlo comes back, tebez will probably move further up. Allegri has tevez so deep to provide the creativity we are lacking with the absence of pirlo
Yup, Tevez even picks the ball up around the middle line lately. How the heck is he gonna receive the ball in attack when he has it in midfield?
I think you’re a bit harsh, but I get your point. He doesn’t score as often as a striker should, but that’s because even in the box, he just tries to set up a chance for someone else. I don’t think he does it because he is afraid to do it, I think this is what Allegri askes from him. He is more like a target man anyway, he’s not Ibra to create chances for himself despite being just a “big guy in front of goal”.
so allegri benched asamoah against cesena, benched him against atalanta, and now benched him against atletico. he hasn’t stepped foot on the pitch since the milan game. wtf is wrong with allegri?
Its just Allegri
thing is, allegri went into the game looking for a draw. he didn’t want the players to take any risks. throwing on all your attackers in the last 5 minutes isn’t the solution. you have to go for the win from the beginning
Away at Atletico, packed stadium, Im playing for a draw. Every time. Of course Id prefer a win, but thats not the game I would be playing in that situation. Draw away, win at home. Id play to win both games against Malmo/Olympiakos, but not Atletico.
just going to defend is always an idiotic move. especially when you’ve got players like tevez and pogba who can take players on and create chances. you don’t go all out attack but you don’t just sit around and not create anything either
No, of course I wouldnt just sit back and defend, thats boring and dumb. But, my players would know from the beginning that Im looking for the draw. They should be conservative, but know to attack and take/make chances in the attacking 1/3. A win is a bonus, but a draw in that situation is worth more than 1 point to me. Like I said, I prefer to win, who doesnt, but Im not pushing an attacking game away against a big team.
That said, if I was coach, the team didnt create enough chances for me, and didnt take any risks when we had possession around the box. They played the game I wanted defensively, just lacked the game I want offensively.
We didn’t just defend, thats what Atletico did. I liked your words more when you said we didn’t take enough risks.
Just passing the ball around and not doing anything with it is considered just sitting back and defending
Thats not defending and i doubt their intentions were to simply hold the ball. We galloped forward many times in the opening 20 mins, but overall lacked creativity
lol, no it isn’t. Defending is sitting back letting the other team have the ball. The fact that we had the ball for most of the game proves that we had intentions to attack. Just no idea how to get through Atletico’s defense.
Exactly. Either that or bore everyone to death and still lose
Poor game by both teams. Juve didn’t even have a shot on goal, damn..
gigi agrees with me. must have been on this site lol
https://football-italia.net/56692/buffon-juve-must-take-more-risks
He is totally right
GIGI I LOVE YOUUUUUU!!!!!! (hope he didn’t leave yet) :p
Fuck the city of Madrid.
That is all.
Had we not lost today, i wouldve really enjoyed the match. It was a war full hard tackles and tough marking from both ends of the pitch.
So just to sum up my thoughts:
-Lackluster; flat attack
-there was no support for Tevez on any of our counter attacks
-No attacking options in advanced positions
-No creativity
-No pace in the middle
Yup, we played like a wet rag
https://www.goal.com/en/news/1716/champions-league/2014/10/02/5149995/juventus-as-good-as-real-madrid-and-barcelona-simeone?ICID=HP_HN_3
Cool. I’m having second thoughts on this guy now.
he’s basically another conte
except that he adapts.
no thing against conte though
conte also adapted. he came in wanting to play a 4-2-4, then switched to a 4-3-3 because it suited his players better, and then switched to a 3-5-2 because it covered the team’s weakness at LB and put 3 good cbs in all at the same time. he wanted to be able to play a 4-3-3 but pepe was injured for 2 years and the board didn’t buy him any wingers.
I have always liked him, despite his spell at Inter. His actions on the sideline is what i’d want a coach to do. It’s why i liked Conte so much. He is also always good for a laugh during a game.
The fact that he says this is a huge compliment for us. Might say that we didn’t play so bad after all. He and his team have beaten Madrid and Barca for the title last season and would have won the CL if it wasn’t for that one Ramos goal.
I was pissed at him and Atletico after the match, that was more a rage reaction though.