Borussia Dortmund v Juventus
Friendly Match – Saturday, 25th July – 19:00 CET – AFG Arena, St. Gallen, Switzerland
Preview
Juventus return to action with their first friendly match of the summer against Borussia Dortmund. Follow the action here!
Thank God ! Praise Jesus ! Hallelujah ! We can talk about something other than the transfer market ! Hurrah !
It’s been a trying month, especially given the way things started. At the beginning of July, it looked as though Juve had completed all their transfer dealings, bringing in Paulo Dybala and Sami Khedira with deals for Norbeto Neto and Simone Zaza also on the cards. Fast forward four weeks and the Bianconeri have lost Carlos Tevez and Andrea Pirlo to Boca Juniors and NYCFC respectively, while Arturo Vidal is only days away from completing a move to German champions Bayern Munich.
Juve moved quickly to replace Tevez by bringing in Mario Mandzukic and it looks as though Sami Khedira or Claudio Marchisio will be taking the place of the departed Maestro. While Arturo Vidal is pretty much irreplaceable, Juve look to be addressing a different area of the midfield as Coach Max Allegri has reiterated his desire for a bona fide trequartista, Julian Draxler being the most likely target.
So what can we glean from all this ? Well first of all, we’ll be missing a whole lot of experience from the team next season. Tevez quite literally dragged the team to victory on more than occasion and Vidal, despite having a poor season by his standards, was the engine in midfield that kept things ticking over. As for Pirlo, well, he was Pirlo; Capable of turning a game on it’s head with a moment of utter brilliance, be it a pass, free kick or one of those goals from outside the area.
On a much more positive note, Juve have had one of their most productive and hopefully most positive transfer periods in some time. A lot of money was spent on up-and-coming striker Dybala to inject some ingenuity, pace and creativity in attack, and Zaza and Mandzukic look like the kind of strikers we all hoped Fernando Llorente would be.
Between the posts, we lost one of my favourite players in the shape of Marco Storari, but once again, we got another young star in Norberto Neto; A keeper who joins Juve following one of his best seasons to date at Fiorentina.
Add into this the arrival of young centre-back Daniele Rugani, (a Juventino since childhood), the return of Kwadwo Asamoah (who will most likely be playing in midfield next season) along with Juve refusing several offers for Kinglsey Coman. Add all that together and one thing becomes overwhelmingly apparent: The Juve squad has gotten younger. We’re not talking about a year or two. We’re talking about 8 players all born after 1990 set to play in key positions across the pitch.
In terms of formations and tactics, it’s difficult to say at this early stage. On paper, we’ve got a team that Allegri could easily field as a 4-3-3 with Pogba, Khedira and Marchisio in midfield and two of either Coman, Dybala or Morata playing wider while Mandzukic or Zaza would play as the target man.
On the flip side, Allegri could just as easily switch things to his more loved 4-3-1-2 with Roberto Pereyra, Coman or even Dybala dropping in behind Mandzukic/Zaza and Morata.
Exciting times, and i say that earnestly. After the successes of the last 4 seasons, it’s been disappointing to lose 3 key players in such a short period of time. Pirlo, Tevez and Vidal were never ‘squad’ players. They were truly one of a kind and utterly uinique, but if their hearts or heads were no longer in Turin, it was pointless to keep them. Beppe Marotta has never been one for that. Moving forward, we can look at this season as one of experiment, new ideas, formations and tactics. A new approach and a squad built completely around Allegri’s ideas for the future. While I understand the air of negativity and disappointment that lingers in the wake of player departures, I’ve followed the club long enough to see stars come and go and despite all that, Juventus always survive. They do better than survive. They flourish.
Probable lineup:
4-3-1-2: Buffon; Lichtsteiner, Bonucci, Chiellini, Evra; Pogba, Khedira, Marchisio; Dybala; Morata, Mandzukic
4-4-2: Weidenfeller; Durm, Ginter, Piszcek, Subotic; Castro, Weigl, Kagawa, Kampl; Reus, Hofman*
*I should point out that this was total guess work on my part. Looking at Dortmund’s last few friendlies, this may be how they lineup…
Juventus squad to face Borussia Dortmund:
Buffon, Chiellini, Caceres, Pogba, Zaza, Marchisio, Morata, Llorente, Barzagli, Mandzukic, Bonucci, Padoin, Dybala, Rugani, Neto, Lichtsteiner, Sturaro, Khedira, Evra, Rubinho, Audero, Clemenza, Parodi, Tello, Cerri, Vadala.
Formation
First !
What do i win ?
A lifetime of updating this website ? Fuck you
anyway, excited about the match – We can see all kinds of new Juve tomorrow. 4-3-3 ? 4-3-1-2 ? Perhaps both – Really excited to see what Allegri has in store
You think khedira is in front of the defense instead of CM8?
This is the consensus from what I hear. Khedira is better suited in that role so principino may have to move over for now
Sam is too slow for me, so i cant see him play in vidal’ s position, prob. Cm8 will play “pirlo” in “vidal” position, sam will be like our fifth defender but can burst (well,take it like “burst like Mclaren Honda” ) forward whenever needed,
What do you win? A lot of Juve fans, people who love the most wonderful club in the world, good enough huh? 😉
You win a brownie. You’re too far away to get your price delivered personally though, so you’ll have to buy it yourself.
You win a brownie. You’re too far away to get your price delivered personally though, so you’ll have to buy it yourself.
LETS DO THIS!! Will only be able to watch the first half tho:/ They are airing it July 28 on espn deportes so I’ll catch the whole match then.
well at least you get to catch it on tv… I’ll have to resort to YouTube…
FINALLY! We are actually playing.
Who will be our penalty, free kick and corner takers? I am worrying about those, i think we don’t have any specialist.
Padoin, there is nothing he cant handle, codename – padohit
We’ve been saving him all these years for this moment!
I guess Marchisio for corners and maybe free kicks, I have no idea how good or ba the new arrivals are at free kicks and penalties so we’ll have to wait and see, maybe Mandzukic/Morata for the penalties
Neto, lichtsteiner,bonucci,rugani,evra,
marchisio,khedira,pogba,
dybala,morata,coman
I would like to see this in 433 “run” D-M-C attack
And then Zaza Mandzukic together up front
Neto???
Just want to see him in action
Forgot this was the Dortmund friendly thread. Nvm my post.
Draxlers agent: “We’ve reached an agreement with Juventus.” !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nooooooooooooooooooo. Waste of money.
Agreed.
In personal terms yeah, not with Schalke, or did he mean with the club as well? haven’t seen any such thing yet
Agreed with him 3,7 m plus bonuses, schalke want 35m for him while juve offer 25
Yeah that is what I meant, the personal agreement is done but Schalke and Juve aren’t finished negotiating yet
The new Juventus
Young guns
blowing everyone away
Draxler Assist
https://vine.co/v/OxdElrhBYjg
Lol, that has to hurt for the goalie
Giuseppe Rossi got injured again
Whats new
it has to be crazy for him
Wait, he was back in the first place?
Yes he played in friendly vs benfica
I remember we used to joke about Iaquinta not being able to walk down the bus stairs without getting injured, but Rossi is even worse. Even a leaf falling from a tree can injure him..
It was irony but ty 😛
Poor guy. He’s from New Jersey so I always liked him. Can’t stay healthy to save his life
Khedira and llorente out through injury- they won’t feature
Llorente should be out through sale, not injury. Come on, Marotta.
fuck, i wanted to see khedira in action
Good start for Khedira.
https://football-italia.net/69680/juve-close-siqueira
Juve close to Siqueira. Loan with 10m option, 2m per season + bonuses.
Lame. Marcos Alonso of Fiorentina, or Mario Rui of Empoli would be better, and cheaper, and are younger. Alonso had 1 goal and 3 assists last season, Rui 4 assists, to Siqueira’s 1 assist in La Liga. Keep bringing in young players, Beppe.
I figure he’s a back up to Evra who will still be first choice.
Next summer we can go all out to get a proper LB
Still hoping for Ricardo Rodriguez. I think I heard he has a 35m buyout next summer?
Yeah lame move indeed, I dont want this Siqueira either, there are far nicer options
Live stream from BvB website https://live.bvbtotal.de/
Lineups
Who is Tello?
A youngster we recently got from I don’t know where 😛
We had him on loan last year in the primavera and recently bought him for 1m. He’s colombian
Oh good, let’s see how he does!
buffon saving us yet again… twice
i love how the germans say offside
How do they say it? Bautenspiel or something? xD It’s buitenspel in dutch.
as i hear it, it sounds like Abseits or something. its like saying offside in a very german accent
Abseits.. That sounds right but it suprises me. Never been good at German.
who has a good english stream
Mandzukic… This should have been a goal. Perfect free kick from Dybala.
i agree. no one saw it coming and he shoulda scored
lol what… How did that Dortmund player keep that in play? He deserves an award.
fuck
That went way too easy. No one was marking Aubameyang.
our defense is terrible
Not gonna judge about our play since it’s a friendly, but i’m not exactly satisfied with how our players are doing.
I just realised, who is gonna take over the free kicks? We’ve been spoiled for 4 years by Pirlo’s free kicks, the Dybala one shocked me. It wasn’t even close to goal. His 2nd free kick, the cross, was much better. Perfect even. Mandzukic failed. Havent seen Mandzukic do anything useful tbh.
i think i have more fingers on both hands than mandzukic had any touch of the ball in that half. im not expecting much from him since he has to get used to the style of play Juve and serie A has.
Hey guys haven’t been on in a year. It’s good to be back!
Welcome back.
Dybala never mentioned how #21 was Del Piero’s old jersey too.
Really? I always thought Ale wore #16 before the #10 shirt.
hello neto
of course lichsteiner gets the home treatment! he’s the only one playing at “home”
That new young goalkeeper is very impressive
Who?
Netto
He’s already 26 though. Maybe young for a goalkeeper but i was thinking more about 20/21 :p
Yes you are right, they really should have got Perin
nice stream…. wtf?
the BVB total stream suddenly turned to volleyball…
Funniest thing is that its an actual Dortmund stream. I guess the host put it on and didn’t watch himself.
Dortmund have played 5 friendlies this summer
Juve have played 0 this summer
Disappointing result and disappointing performance but, it’s only our first friendly and Dortmund’s sixth so i’m willing to let this slide. Very positive showings from Buffon and Neto but, the rest of the team looked really rusty(which is understandable).
I liked morata, anyway neto looks to be very good signing
Italians never care in friendlies. Add that to the list to why we shouldn’t care too. I have been disappointed for nothing too many times, losing a friendly to Lech Poznan or whoever is way below our level, and winning a CL match against Madrid the next week for example. Italians can do it.
Let’s not forget this was a completely meaningless friendly, where Allegri was clearly experimenting with the players. Nothing lost here
What a Hungarian F1 GP.
Hey Mo are u going to change your screen name now that Vidal is gone lol?
Hm jovetic to Inter ?? They mean serious business this year ..
Didn’t really get to catch too much of it and what I did see was on a crap stream. Looks like Dybala already has FK duty. Gigi still saving us. Defense looked pretty shaky. I thought Caceres was one of our worst guys but he hasn’t played in forever so it’s all good. Italians never seem to play their best until they really have to and it’s tough for the fans but I guess we will see how it goes in the Suppercopa and will hold off on judgement till then. Did Zaza or Clemenza do anything?
Zaza looked sharp, mandzukic too. Dybala was quick and clever. Only thing i didn;t like was seeing him play behind two strikers. We need a real 3/4 to play there – Dybala belongs up front, not as an AM
It was hard for me to tell but I thought it looked a lot like a 433 with Morata and Mndzu wide? Good chance it could’ve been the crappy quality and i couldn’t see what was going on lol
Mandzukic wide?what have u been watching mate?
That’s what it looked like to me. Obviously that wouldn’t make sense but maybe they just had the freedom to move around? Even the announcer was saying that Morata and Mandzukic were frequently switching sides. Like I said I only saw a bit of the game on a crap link
One can only hope this wont happen, like ever xD
I did get to see some Pirlo yesterday tho. Everytime he touched the ball or made a turn on a defender the crowd went wild. I guess he is already a huge hit here. Once he came on the team scored 2 quick goals. I’m gonna miss him
He’s still a difference maker. He has so much experience, thats what we’ll miss. I’ll always be sorry to see him go but if he wasn’t wanting juve anymore, then so be it
Yeah definitely. I’m sure he didn’t want to be on the bench a lot I think he said something about leaving before the other party forces you out. It was kaka’ vs Pirlo yesterday. I’m sure those two could still play for Milan’s team today
He didnt want to leave necessarily, he just wants to be a key player and he knew his time at Juve as key player was drawing to an end. So he left before he was pushed out, so he could leave properly (remember the Milan exit :p)
One summer move that doesn’t make sense to me is signing Mandzukic for €19 million, especially when we also brought back Zaza. I don’t see him doing any better than Llorente except at frustrating opponents and getting into fights. And if Mandzukic’s presence means less time for Coman (and obviously Zaza), it would be severely disappointing.
agree agree agree
Adding both Mandzukic and Zaza does look weird. Especially if Llorente isn’t going to get sold. We don’t need 3 strikers who are just good at getting goals.
Just need Morata, Dybala, Coman to play a lot, Mandzukic probably starting over Zaza but either way, Zaza or Coman is going to be warming the bench A LOT, or probably even both
It makes no sense to decline €15 million offers for Coman only to keep him on the bench like last season. At some point he is going to want to bolt out. Zaza may be more patient. Allegri knows this already, but I hope he resolves this situation well.
Another point of contention for me is the Llorente situation: bringing in Zaza and Mandzukic before selling him really hurts Juve’s bargaining position. Also, Allegri openly declaring he needs a #10 at every chance isn’t helping Juve’s negotiations to land a #10.
Anyway, I trust our leaders know what they are doing as they have demonstrated many times in the past.
100% agreed there, management will be aware of this too, they are one of the most capable I’ve seen in football. Let’s hope they can get it worked out soon!
Coman really needs to play more, we can’t let him become frustrated and leave for peanuts. Llorente MUST be sold and I have no clue what Zaza is going to have to do here, just here for depth I guess? At least rather him than Matri again.
All our strikers are far more capable than what we had over the last seasons, that is the good side of it. Instead of Borriello, Matri, Amauri, Anelka, Bendtner and so on we have Zaza as benchplayer, who is better than any of the previous strikers.
I really want a good LB, not Siqueira. Rather another youngster then. Someone from the Primavera even. Or Murru, Rodriguez, Baba, idc but someone talented and young, ready and willing to learn from Evra and sub for him in the easier games
Udinese at home first weekend
prima giornata
Away at Roma the second weekend
Milan derby week two also
Good work, thanks for posting bud. I’ll do a full type up once they’re all released/
figured you would but I am bored in a meeting so just thought I’d post it
Glad you did ! i followed it here instead of Twitter for a change. Thanks bud
Derby d’italia week 8
Juventus made an offer of 15m + bonuses and was declined by S04. Marotta also just said that he wants a TQ and a LB. Looks like Draxler and Siquiera (idk how to spell it)
Schalke said that they rejected the offer and Juve should no longer discuss with the player anymore 🙂 You gotta laugh.
I think I might have missed the part about them saying to stop asking about the player, is that true?
apparently so – Schalke DS Heldt: “We are not ready to hold further talks for Draxler. We already
told Juventus that they should not any make contact with Julian now.”
Bah
just playing hardball i hope
15mill in pounds that is! Schalke is playing hardball but man they can keep Draxler if they want 30mill for him.
I don’t see the point of throwing 10mill at Siqueira though, such an average guy and he’s 29
the 4 games he played against us he looked good. I thought we would splash big next summer for a lb so maybe he will and another guy will compete for it next year? Not really sure tbh
I don’t know really but I just don’t see the point of “replacing” a 33year old with a 29year old. Especially given that I would rate Evra higher, even despite his age
Yeah I haven’t seen the guy enough to have a solid opinioni on him. Hopefully Caceres stays healthy and can split time w Licht cuz he looked exhausted last year and hope we bring in a LB to split time w Evra cuz he’s an old man 😉 just hope the new lb is quality
I don’t understand playing 2 big strikers like Mandzukic and Morata upfront at the same time, there is not much creativity between them…. For me, Dybala has to play upfront (like Tevez) creating and scoring with one of Morata/Mandzukic/Llorente.
Of course, a trequarista needs to be bought —> or Pereyra?!?
…but beware of my pessimism… Dybala: I really don’t think he’s ready for Juve. I’m very sceptical of him, especially as he only had one good half of last season, the second half he was a bit quiet
I haven’t seen too much of Dybala other than youtube high lights and he looks pretty good … He’s held in high regard by many, not just in Italy and a bidding war would have ensued should Juve hadn’t closed the deal so quickly. We’ll see. It’s also possible he doesn’t get off to a hot start and starts to come around later in the year or even next year .. He’s young, the management team is smart .. They’re a shrewd bunch Agnelli and Marrotta et al .. You know the way these guys operate, if they think this guy is worth the 40 mill, then I have faith in them .. I’m not some blind fool, but I do think our current management team might very well be the best in the world right now … And I think Allegri is awesome too. I’m glad he’s leading this team now and not Conte. We all know what Conte’s contributions were over the years, but it was Allegri who was the only one who could take them to next level … After last year ended, Cone said it himself that he couldn’t take this team any further, that italian football couldn’t compete … Meanwhile..
I really hope you’re right about Dybala, maybe it’s my Italian in me coming out (not trusting youth) haha!
What do you think of Pereyra being the trequarista?
Not much actually. Lol.
Didn’t see the game but I read Morata was playing on the left with Mandzukic ST and I forgot who on the right, I assume Dybala.
I wouldn’t use Pereyra for trequartista, I’d go for Dybala or Berardi. Or Draxler if we really don’t go for Berardi now, which is the case.
Besides this I agree that both Morata and Mandzukic in a 2striker system doesn’t sound so good, Morata can be creative but he is no Tevez. Mandzukic is only there to finish it off so yeah we need someone creative behind them
yeah, Morata seemed to be out on the left against Dortmund, but I wasn’t really referring to that game, I mean in my opinion in general, I don’t think Morata-Mandzukic will work :/
Me neither, unless Morata can adapt to play as a more creative striker. Like Del Piero with Trezeguet, Morata as ADP and Mandzukic the role of Trezeguet. Doubt it will work tho xD
Hoping for a few more transfer moves though. Llorente, Isla, De Ceglie need to be sold. Marrone too, those injuries are becoming too troublesome. And try to get a better or at least a younger LB than this Siqueira
What do you all think of Felipe Anderson as an alternative to Draxler, assuming Lazio are willing to sell him for €20-25mil? He
– is young (22) ;
– has been healthy;
– is actually more proven than Draxler (10/7 goals/assists last season compared to 2/1 for Draxler, not factoring in mins played);
– has done very well in Serie A;
– has played effectively as an attacking midfielder
– is versatile.
I think he is a beast but we would be buying from Lotito (jackass) and I’m sure he’d want at least 40m
Indeed. Draxler and Anderson have about the same market value, but Lotito will probably demand a much higher fee for Anderson.
Yeah I think there were rumors of Man u asking for him and Lotito said 40m? not positive tho. He also resigned until 2019 last year so no leverage
Would in theory be a sweet move imo, now that he isn’t too well known outside of Serie A just yet. But that dick Lotito won’t let him go cheap, especially not to us
Yep, Lotito wouldn’t sell to Juve for cheap and he may keep Anderson just to keep up with Roma.
I think Lazio are really going to struggle for depth this year having 3 comps. Also CL qualifiers are right after the Suppercoppa so maybe they won’t put as much priority on it since CL has more $