We’re here. This is it. After tomorrow’s game we will have a much better idea of what type team this Juventus is, and what type of achievements they will make this season. Of course, a third straight Scudetto is nothing to scoff at, but Europa League failure would be disappointing. Particularly following December’s Champions League failure.
Benfica may have won the first leg 2-1, but Juventus grabbed that all important away goal. A 1-0 victory sees them through. However, 1-1 and they are done. Barring a very high scoring game, a one goal victory will see them through. Benfica have nothing else to focus on as they already won the Portuguese league. Benfica really played well versus Juve in the first leg, though it remains to be seen if Juventus Stadium and the “12th man” can play a role in the second leg.
Juventus
Judging from the early reports, Juventus will have a nearly identical lineup to the one that started last Thursday. Just, they will have Arturo Vidal back.
In goal Gigi Buffon will start, and hopefully he won’t get screwed over by centerbacks getting caught out or completely failing to mark their man on corner kicks. You know, like last week.
The defense sees some changes from the Sassuolo game, Martin Caceres is again getting the start over Andrea Barzagli. I see this as the right move, Caceres’ speed is useful against Benfica’s attack and Barzagli isn’t in top form anyway at the moment. Giorgio Chiellini and Leo Bonucci will be paired with Caceres. Bonucci was rested for the Sassuolo match, though he did play a bit at the end. Both Chiellini and Bonucci had errors on Benfica goals last week, hopefully they tighten that up for tomorrow.
Stephan Lichtsteiner and Kwadwo Asamoah will be the starting wingbacks, and they have a very important job in both creating and defending against Benfica’s wide attack.
The midfield sees the big change, with Vidal returning. Despite reports to the contrary, Vidal’s knee is alive and well. Vidal will most likely partner Andrea Pirlo and Paul Pogba. I wouldn’t mind seeing Marchisio in for Pogba, as while Marchisio is not as good at taking on defenders one on one (or two on one) he is better at marking and organizing, particularly on the counter attack. It’s very possible that, whether it be Marchisio or Pogba playing, whichever player isn’t starting will later be subbed on.
It seems Conte is still undecided on which striker should partner Carlos Tevez up top. Tevez is in fine form, and he finally broke his scoring duck in European play. Reports suggest one of Sebastian Giovinco or Fernando Llorente will start. It could be a good game for Giovinco, as his speed and dribbling could come in handy against a counter attacking side like Benfica. Llorente could also provide some benefits as his strength in the box could give Juve an edge over Benfica’s skilled centerbacks. According to Sky Sport, Llorente is preferred to Giovinco, but Conte seems to wait until the last minute to decide on the strikers.
Benfica
Not many changes for the Portuguese champions, at least compared to their lineup from last week. Andre Gomes is suspended due to yellow card accumulation, but this isn’t an Earth-shattering loss for Benfica. They did just fine without Nicolas Gaitan, for example.
Apparently Eduardo Salvio will be available to play for the match, but it’s highly unlikely that he will take the pitch as he is just returning from injury. Still, he is a dangerous player and his availability certainly won’t hurt Benfica.
Benfica’s starting defense should be identical to the one that came out last week. Hopefully Ezequiel Garay can be stopped on corner kicks this time though.
In the midfield, Ruben Amorim will replace the suspended Gomes. Amorim, like many other Benfica players, is capable of devastating teams. He was huge versus Tottenham, for example, where he grabbed two assists. He will be partnered with Enzo Perez, meanwhile Lazar Markovic and Miralem Sulejmani will return on the wings.
The striker pairing of Oscar Cardozo and Rodrigo will start, but seeing as how Lima scored that amazing goal last week, I would totally expect him to replace Cardozo at some point in the game.
Benfica had a tough 0-0 draw with FC Porto this weekend, but with the league wrapped up all of their focus and effort is on the Europa League. It will be a very tough match, but Juve have homefield advantage.
First!
2nd!
Seriously Courtois is really becoming one of my fav keepers. There’s a new surge of goalkeepers coming soon. The old one (Buffon, Casillas, Cech, etc) is fading away for them.
They are getting older. Not really fading away imo. But yeah i agree, Courtois might be the best gk of the next generation.
So an all Spanish final.
all madrid final.
4th
“If we’re able to win the Europa League everyone will say that it’s a minor cup, and if we lose then they’ll say we’re not ready for Europe yet.” -Conte
tbh, they’d be right. EL isn’t a major trophy but if we fail to win it, it’d mean we aren’t ready to compete among the top european teams yet.
True but it can certainly be a good springboard.. Look at athletico. Though I’m obviously not going to expect us to get to the final next season if we manage to win the EL but it could be the start of our journey back to the top of European football
Yea. Our previous EL wins have been used to launch us towards the CL
I’ll do a lot for a 1-0 win
The duties for the day are done…….ready for this game lets have it lads……FORZA JUVE.
hope licht pogba vidal and Asamoah have the games of their lives. our buildup depends on these 4 because Pirlo will see little of the ball.
Gaitan is playing today. Licht, vidal, and caceres have to be on top of their game. He’s benfica’s star and for good reason too
Padoin is on the bench today. If he actually comes on….
Don’t worry. He will only come on in the 80th minute at a 3-0 lead for us. Match will end in 3-4 after that. So yeah, worry :p
Black and white!!!!! How i’ve missed you <3
The fans are fired up. LET’S DO THIS! FORZA JUVE!!!!!
Diego Maradona is there in the stands.
They say Tevez invited him personally.
Amazing game so far.
Pogba is seriously the best.
Pol looks most likely to score.
Oh come on…. This is becoming very risky….
Vidal :(((((((
Soo close!!!!
Pogba MOM by far
Juve playing good. They Have to score a goal ! Hope they do !
Not being able to take our chances in this half will come back to haunt us. We out shot them 9 to 1 and created some great opportunities but FUCK!! The ball wont go in
If we keep playing like this i´m sure we´ll score.
Man I hope so !
I’m really like Markovic.
Jorge Jesus looks like a rapist.
YEEESSSS
RED
RED CARD BITCH!!
This is just going to make it harder for us
Vucinic or gio for llorente.
We should go 4-3-3 now, we need a more attacking formation to break them down
Going to a 4-3-3 I think
yeah
Gio for Bonny?
Win or lose.
Did Conte just change formation?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?
what the heck is going on??? I’m at work missing the game and by the comments it sounds like we should be leading comfortably but its the 73 min n its 0-0!!! I’m freaking out!!!!
It might not come as a suprise, it shouldn’t come as a suprise. We can’t finish our chances.
Its do or freakin die!!!!!
What the hell why is osvaldo coming on?
Good finisher.. Let’s hope he manages to control something tonight though
Fuck this
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One dot is simply not enough.
OSVALLLLLLLLLDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
FUUUUUUUUCK
Fuck this this fuck fuck fuck
NOOOOOOOOOOO
Noooooo
The ball was played back? Hows that a offside?
Was it?
I think so
Pogba was offside
Wasn’t. Was a cross from Marchisio
Pogba was initially offside.
Oooh it was pogba offside, makes sense
Right well that guy can go f*ck himself
C’MON JUVE!!!!!
FUCKIN TIME WASTERS, GOD DAMN!!!
Our players would do the same..
Yeah but f*ck Benfica..
Pff it’s over
Yep
Mirkooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo hahahah
Well at least that was a bit of entertainment for us
good idea mirko, lets waste some minutes….
dive dive dive dive
Actually that wasn’t, looked pretty painful
If we don’t get at least 10 minutes extra time it’ll be a joke
Honestly.
he wont add 10 minutes
fuck this shit. Can’t even play the final at own stadium
It’s over..
Fucking hell osvalfo
Cmon Pirlo..
LETS GO PIRLO PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GET IT IN PLEASE
Good night guys.
Benfica deserved it. All in all Juve didn’t gave benfica’s keeper a lot of trouble
Proves once again how shit the Serie A is because this way of playing gives us the 3 points in pretty much every Serie A match.
I wouldnt say Benfica deserved it, Benfica got lucky as shit this game was played in the pouring rain.
Juve didn’t really have great chances. Juve didn’t create a lot, they tried but…
The fuck they didn’t!
Well.. Congratulations benfica
well, thank god it’s not a champions league semi-final. That would’ve been a lot worse . Still, would be nice if Juve’d won el
I am gonna be the biggest hypocrite in the history of hypocrites, but it’s only Europa League.
fuck this. how the fuck can we not score against 9 fucking men? this is embarrassing. fuck 3-5-2.
Because we think it will work out in the end by itself. That’s what happens in the Serie A for 3 years now. In europe that’s not the case and last season they almost got that the hard way but we were lucky to survive the groups stage back then. This season we did get it the hard way, twice. Realise it, Juve, please….
we’re not even good enough to win the fucking europa league
no, i think conte isnt good enough to win the EL. 3-5-2 is a great formation in Italy, but not so much in Europe.
knocked out of CL in group stage, knocked out of EL cuz we can’t score against 9 fucking men. if 3-5-2 is used in europe next season i just might kill myself
Should I make a screenshot of this, just in case you forget?
That might make it murder, in a way.
Yeah, I don’t want it anyway, just hate it when people promise shit they won’t keep.
‘might’
‘might’ promise :p
It was 4-3-3 after they went down to 10 men though
4-3-3 with tevez and giovinco outwide. none of them ought to start a big CL match as a winger
Is it me or was there bad link-up play. I don’t know, i’ll be glad when this season’s over and Juve got a couple of wingers. Too much depends on lichtsteiner and asamoah in a 3-5-2.
We dont need wingers, we just need a good LB so we can play a 4-2-3-1, or a 4-3-1-2 in these games.
3-5-2 has made us the laughing stock of europe
We played shit in every match of the EL, we deserved it. Hurts because we only needed one goal in the end, but it wouldn’t be much different if we went out against Fio in the beginning.
tbh, i agree. we struggled to beat a mid table turkish team at home, just barely got past fiorentina, just barely got past lyon, and now couldn’t score against 9 men
another thing, we’ve got 5’5 giovinco, 5’8 tevez, and useless ass osvaldo up front and we’re sending in crosses. who the hell is gonna score? the wind? why the hell would you take off llorente?
10 against 11 in the 66th min. Juve created maybe one really good chance, in a game like this I expect at least a goal. And really clumsy passing.. This shouldn’t be happening with a team that dominates serie A and has world-class players..
Don’t forget useless shots from the middle line that they seem to think will go in while it’s only giving away possession in reality.
so fuckin depressing
This is fucking embarrassing to lose in Europa League, even more embarrassing when the final is in our own god damn stadium!! Can’t wait to hear what poor excuse Conte has for this.
“We lost against a team who played well, and also ranked 6th in uefa club rankings, while Juve is only 17th.”
I really hope it won’t be anything like this.
not that much conte could do aside from not bringing on osvaldo. in 2 years, the board hasn’t signed any wingers when conte has been insisting 4-3-3 is only playable with wingers.
Jesus Christ…. Well we’ve struggled in Europe all season so I’m not surprised. People say 3-5-2 is just an excuse but it really isn’t, it just doesn’t work in Europe. Please god get some wingers or switch to a modern formation
Get some wingers AND* switch to a modern formation
pogba played so good today. such a shame. he deserves to play with a team that wins in europe too.
I missed the first half (but heard he played very well then) but he was pretty anonymous in the second half
dude in the first have he literally had zidane moments. there was this part where he juggled the ball on his head and got it away from two players before being fouled
Yeah I missed it but they did say he was having a great game and for the English pundits to compliment a player who plays for an Italian team.. Well.. Must’ve been doing well
It was……. orgasmic.
Here you can check it. (I don’t know if Disqus embeds this or not.)
https://gfycat.com/PlayfulFarawayIrishwolfhound
Unless Marotta buys some WC players in the summer, I dont see Pogba sticking around for another season.
If we get a good amount for him it could help us bring in the players we need
I think he’ll stay atleast another season. I just don’t see him leaving right now. But yeah the first sentence applies for the season afterwards. We only just need an LB who can do what Lichtsteiner can, and someone who can finish.
After this, he has every right to leave.
You know lots of good teams have failed to with the EL before.. It’s not the end of the world
Yes, but this was on a plate for us. Final in our own stadium, needed only 1 goal, was 11vs9 at one point, and we still managed to not score and win. With all the advantages we had, its inexcusable really.
”he deserves to play with a team that wins in europe too.”
Which can be us if we change a couple of things. Hopefully Pogba realises that.
yea, but first we need to change those things. i don’t think pogba will leave this summer but another year like this and he will be gone. he’s really ambitious and you can’t blame him for leaving since his ambition is what brought him here in the first place
That i do agree with. That’s why things need to change next season. Well Pogba is one of the reasons.
Fuck me. That’s all I’m gonna say. Fuck me.
And Osvaldo… How many times was this fucking waste of space offside when he came on!?
Once
Thanks for informing me… That’s 1 more than he should have
Then there was pogba twice and tevez in that last 15 minutes
pogba isn’t a forward. a good forward needs to have offside awareness
Okay thanks for this information
But seriously, you don’t think he’s juve material, do you?
Nope, if he could sort out his first touch he certainly could be though, it’s a shame because he’s a heck of a finisher
what is juve material anymore anyways? cant win fuck all unless its a scudetto, which is meaningless in this day and age…
Oh c’mon man.. We should have finished the match way before he came on. He did finish the match, had Pogba not been offside. Osvaldo was loaned to finish our chances, which he does. It’s known that he can only do that.
He’s scored twice…against a midtable turkish team
And that’s him doing what he’s good at. And that’s what we need in this team, someone who finished our chances without any bullshit. Just wouldn’t hurt if he had some better control to get into better positions. Bottom point is that he would have been the one who got us through to the final had Pogba not been offside.
if pogba hadn’t been offsides, osvaldo wouldn’t have even gotten the chance. marchisio’s feint before crossing fooled pogba though
You’re still missing my point that Osvaldo was there where he needed to be at the right time. So he was doing his job well.
another thing i noticed, pepe was on the EL list and quags wasn’t. the one forward who has been good in europe for us and we leave him out for a guy who has been injured for almost 2 seasons now.
Yeah that’s BS. Not sure he could make a difference today, but still.
Quags will be gone soon. No need putting him in the list. Pepe might stay if he was included.
Pepe needs to leave too. He’s got no place here anymore.
I dunno about that. He has something that many players are missing lately and that’s always giving 200%. He is also an important factor in the dressing room to motivate other players and he is a work horse. He won’t be any good against top CL teams, but he can be important in Serie A when we have to rotate.
He can barely even manage a game a season and is getting paid millions for his time on the treatment table
Might wanna check his nationality before you say those things. This isn’t like you and you might regret it later.
If he ever finds his form back he should definitely stay. Pepe never gives up and I really liked seeing him play. Isla,padoin,peluso,vucinic.. Those are players that should definitely leave
This….
i like pepe. you can’t not like him. but a never say die attitude can only get you so far without talent. it’s a shame he doesn’t have much talent. a club like juve needs players of a better quality. you wouldn’t find a pepe on RM or bayern
Do you even know what you’re saying? There literally is a Pepe at Real Madrid XD
lol true. but the quality of the two pepe’s…
Edit: but my god i hate the madrid pepe so much
I know. It was just too funny to not say xD
On a serious note, his never say die attitude got him through the Napoli defence and earned us a draw in that season where we were competing with Milan. I’m not saying it will win us the CL, but never say die without talent does get you somewhere. And he is an important factor to the teams motivation.
He got lucky hut yea it did. However, better quality players can do more
I’m not denying that. But luck gets forced by hard work and that never say die attitude. And that’s something most of our players lack since we won the first scudetto with Conte.
This is so disappointing, now it clearly appears we are not good enough for Europe, I don’t know what Conte sees in 3-5-2, it is so rigid and non-fluent…I hate the formation.Now I won’t be able to sleep, this is depressing
3 years ago everyone was praising the formation and now it gets criticised constantly. Its a good formation but not for games like this
I wasn’t.
Always felt like the 4-3-3 we played in the first half of the 2011/2012 season was better both to watch and to win.
Exactly, 4-3-3 was fluent and effective to dominate and win games during the first part of 2011-2012 season, only thing we lacked then was good strikers as Vicunic and Matri were very wasteful…, and also we always had so many clear-cut scoring chances then compared to anytime since we switched to 3-5-2…its annoying…even when we played against Real in CL this season using 4-3-3, we played better than we ever did the whole the season…so I don’t get why Conte doesn’t see it
3 years ago we weren’t even playing in Europe.
2 years ago we were and thats when we got the furthest..
2 years ago we still hadn’t won the scudetto yet ..
conte must go now… time to move on..
Btw our fans were outstanding today, they were clearly our 12th man.
12 vs 9 and we still couldn’t f*cking score
Hahaha go sleep Marc 😛
Screw this. Pogba deserves better as a player.
On a side note, next season is the last time me and most other fans will keep on trusting Conte. If we don’t get to the Quarters of the CL next season then I feel like he has to go. Besides, if we win the scudetto next season it’s 4 in a row and we HAVE to have more ambition to succeed as a club. If we don’t win the scudetto then Conte really really would have to go. We need to put up an amazing fight next season or else it will be bad for Serie A and the club’s respect.
By the way, did Portugal rise up ahead of us in coefficients now that we lost?
Yea portugal is 4th now
Only for a season though
why only for a season? how do you know?
I still don’t understand this shit. What has Portugal done in CL? Why the heck is EL the same value as CL? It’s such bullshit.
As does Buffon, Vidal, chiellini and a whole load more of our players.
The difference is, those players aren’t on the verge of signing for another team. Pogba is young and he can easily be convinced by other teams to leave. And to add to that he has a cold hearted snake of an agent.
I phrased it wrong. Pogba deserves more as a developing player.
I’m honestly not bothered if he goes, he’s a fantastic player but I don’t think we lose a great deal when he’s not on the pitch (unless he’s replaced by padoin) and with the hugely inflated fees being quoted then we could buy the players we need to take our squad to the next level. Could well be a Zidane for Buffon and Nedved type of summer.
none of our midfielders have that direct creative impact that pogba does. no one on our team can take players on like he does and he’s a player the world wants to watch. he has the flair that no one else on our team has. too much flair isn’t good but some is important
Zidane also had a lot of flair and look what Juve bought with the sale of him..
yea. but moggi sold zidane in his prime (age 29). kept him for five years. pogba is at the beginning of his career. just because you have a good player doesn’t mean you can pull a zidane transfer on him. not everyone is moggi.
True, I hope Pogba stays but I don’t see Juve spending big on world-class players this summer without a sale of a big player
we made a profit through transfers this year. if we don’t spend, there’s something clearly wrong
Might wanna add ”luckily” to that last sentence.
Raiola was also Nedved’s agent. Nedved stayed loyal. I still can’t see Pogba leave yet. Pogba is a smart guy.
I know he was. Look at the Juve then and the Juve now though.
That’s true. But still. Leaving now to Madrid or whatever would be a dumb step for Pogba because it’s too soon. He needs to be in the spotlight some more and show what he’s got. I can’t see him getting a guarenteed starting spot at Madrid right now and he wants and needs that. Maybe the world cup will be his cup. Like i said, Pogba is a smart guy who choses good steps, so i can’t see him leaving yet.
And who do you think should replace Conte? A shithead who feels nothing for our club?
If conte goes (not saying he should btw) Montella should replace him
Why Montella?
He’s everything a juventus manager should be.. A gent, tactically fantastic and his teams play entertaining football. Plus it’d really piss Fiorentina off which is just the icing on the cake for me
He has everything, except anything that links him to Juve. He coaches Fiorentina, so no i don’t want him. Who knows how he thinks of Juve.
He’s a professional, he compliment our team often even as the manager of a team who is known to hate us (as much as hate can be used in a sporting rivalry that is) You don’t need a link to juve to become a great juventus coach, what link to juventus did lippi have before he became our coach? Or Ancelotti? He played for Roma and milan before managing us.. The link to juve can be formed as they are manager.
Could be. After all we converted Baggio into a Juve legend after he was at Fiorentina. But i just like the idea of having someone like Conte.
LOL. i want conte to stay but if he could adopt the entertaining tactics of montella and actually using youngsters instead of padoins like klopp, he would become a much better coach
There are a couple that can properly take his place. In 2007-2011 we weren’t able to attract big coaches. Now we should be able to get most coaches since it’s a good project. I would seriously take Ancelotti if he leaves Madrid (Madrid can’t have a coach for longer than 2 years without a sacking)
I would take Ancelotti without hesitation. He’s a great coach and he knows how to win and deal with pressure. He’s also Italian and has coached us before. He doesn’t fall under the category ”shitheads who feel nothing for our club” though.
But it would’ve put him in that category before he originally got the post
Maybe. That was in the late 90s. What matters is that i don’t want one like that now.
yes they did. serie a will drop to 5th.
answering to that final question, i’m not sure but don’t think so
We can’t blame everything on a formation. But this team has players with the quality of going really far in the champions league. Juve have players that play attractive football (pogba,tevez,pirlo..) but I don’t get it why conte sticks with this formation. The only games Juve played attractive football in europe were the 2 games against madrid.If they played a 3-5-2 they would’ve been slaughtered.They won against fiorentina and lyon with individual class from pirlo and not as a collective. I hope conte doesn’t stick with the 3-5-2 next season in serie A and plays another formation in the cl. I wanna see something totally new next season. Let’s just hope, that’s all we can do. Now for the scudetto !
In my opinion, the only problem with 3-5-2 is that it is predictable on the attack. We either play crosses from the wings to Giovinco or Tevez, or Bonucci gives a powershot to one of the striker’s feet, hoping it will bounce behind the defenders to Vidal or the other striker. Or Pirlo does his thing, and we score.
We should be able to change formation and thus gameplay during the match, and hopefully without any subs.
And Juve need a clear-out this summer. Players like isla,padoin,vucinic, peluso.. should all go.
pepe, quags, and if we get above 15mil for gio him too since you can get better players for that amount of money
there’s not much he can do when there is only one winger in the squad and the guy has been injured for two years and in the past two years, the board has signed 0 wingers. he knows tevez and gio aren’t good out wide
Conte can’t fail in the cl next year. I expect at least a semi-final next year. Buy players like cerci,sanchez,…$ some fuckin world-class wingers for god’s sake! And a lb like kolarov,coentrao !
asamoah is better defensively than kolarov and coentrao. wingers are a priority but if we had money left over after getting wingers, i’d go for ricardo rodriguez at wolfsburg. dude is a beast and he’s only 21. also, he’s swiss. we’d have a swiss guard for full backs 😛
I’d like to see us get Murru and de sciglio for LB and RB
de sciglio would indeed be really nice
that’d be great. but i’d do that the following summer. Murru still needs to develop and lichsteiner still has at least one more good season left in him. besides, wingers are a priority right now and i don’t think we’ll have enough money left over for them.
If we don’t get de sciglio now we may never get him.. I’d do a co-ownership for Murru so nobody else can buy him but he still gets game time. They may not be the priority but they are deals we should be looking to tie up this summer
here’s pogba’s brilliant control and juggling with his head. not good quality but it’s all i could find
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a6cFKRFSEM
i’m depressed
Roll up a blunt.
ahahahahah, i think you are a psychic
just entered my room ready for one and saw your comment
gotta smoke the blunts..
John don’t encourage the sinners!! lol
Its not a sin! Its a natural substance that has many benefits! I dont do it myself, but if i were depressed, id rather light up some ghanja rather than swallow some chemicals formed into a pill with a bunch of unknown side effects!
Its illegal for good reason squire.. Dope is for dopes! lol
Meade is a good brand and not overly expensive, I have one of them
They are working on making it legal for a reason triangle..
St. Marc eheheh
I remember reading comment earlier this season by some coach (cant remember who) and he said playing in serie A doesnt prepare u for Champions League.THIS IS THE PROBLEM… Serie A needs to stop playing this bullshit slow boring “tactical” nonsense that gets us know where. Every champions league game i watch is entertaining except when serie A teams play cause other teams are faster and simply better (especially in attack). Thats why im all in for wingers like Alexis Sanchez or Di Maria or even still Giovinco for that matter because they’re fast and more dangerous when attacking. I dont even know who plays for god damn Benfica but they were better then us and FASTER over 180 minutes and we have no excuses for this loss. 3-5-2 has to go to. Italy needs to step it up
It was benitez
Yet Benitez can’t do shit in Italy.
I dont get how people criticize the serie a for being “slow”. The spanish league is sh*t slow minus tactics and the basic knowledge of defending.
Well in Spain it’s mostly just the small teams that are slow and don’t know shit about defending. That’s why Barca and Madrid always humiliate them. The top teams are fast paced and give enjoyable matches.
People have that stereotype look at the Serie A still that it’s slow paced, but there are alot of matches that are enjoyable and fast paced. However, i can’t say we made a good statement that Italian football is entertaining with the determination our players had most of this season. I want them back the way they were in 2011/12 so bad 🙁
Im really growing tired of this. When i read that Bonucci f*cked twice in the first leg, i had a feeling it was over. individual errors seem to be a cursed re occurring theme for us in Europe and its costing us. Its pissing me off. You guys know im all in for a more tactical approach, but as of right now, i feel our darkest demon(in europe) is within our players individual mistakes. In europe any little mistake can cost you EVERYTHING. our mistake prone players need to go to rehabilitation center and get their heads fixed. This is ridiculous you cant make such crucial mistakes on numerous occasions for a club aiming for everything
cant blame any1 from the loss.. Benfica defended and played well..they did not “park the bus” when they care to Turin .. Cant blame the team for the nerves and mistake. Juve just got back to Europe a few years ago.. Benfica? Bayern? Madrid? Gala? they have been playing in Europe with most of their players for sometime.
Regardless of how long its been since we returned to europe; individual players screwed up terribly. It cost us in the Cl, it cost us the europa league and the chance to play a final in our own fortress.
They kinda did ‘park the bus’ in Turin
They parked the bus, car, van, train, airplane, tank.
so disappointing 🙁
Its ok. I guess all we can do now is pick up our head and keep moving forward.
Shit happens. This is a part of football win or lose, only thing we should do is forget it and continue to support our club. We were unlucky through whole season but we are going to win our 3rd straight scudetto.
Let’s hope marotta doednt pull a summer 2012 on wingers where he goes after 50 different wingers and then signs a useless winger on loan on deadline day. Also, we need at least two wingers.
I have a theory. What if Conte had the team playing at like 20% because he wanted to keep most of the players fresh and preserved for the WC? Our foundation IS Italys foundation and Italians are extremely passionate about their nazionale, so i wouldnt be surprised, but just a theory.
Nah man, sometimes there are no excuses.
Fact: We were awful in Europe this season, except for the games against Real. A trophy wouldve been too much.
Fact: We are still building a superpower. The quality is there, but the experience is missing.
Even Conte is still learning, he said himself he should have rotated more. Maybe after a 3rd scudetto, he will use some more youth in serie A and play his best team in CL, even against the supposedly weak teams in the group stage.
Agreed…
But i would like to emphasize the fact that my comment was JUST a theory :p i dont truly believe what i posted, just thought it could be a very slim possibility.
Thats okay 😉 just wanted to get it out of your head haha
Two games won’t make a difference. At that point, we just needed to play at 100% in the second leg and the final. Besides, club is always first for coaches.
After he complained about Italy selecting juve players in the past and publicly b*tched at prandelli for him saying all of Italy should support juve in the EL (which was totally unnecessary if you ask me) its obvious that conte puts juve first
Win or looose d boys put dr heart out dr today
Forza Juve
Will be bk next year stronger
I would luv to hv cerci immobile di maria hummles and cudrado next season
doctor heart and doctor today?
Yr me 2 bt we iz nvr gona get thm
dnt knw i think cerci nd immobile shud b posible
n cerci iz nt gd enuf fr us
I almowst thght u wus him. ur gd!
Wch im ply, he gd plyr
Wht r vowlzz??
And so it seems that Eden Hazard and Mourinho don’t really agree on Chelski’s style of play.. If only there was a football club that still hasn’t found a winger yet, and maybe could help Hazard out of this little situation
If only such a place existed, maybe a club in northern Italy, one who is looking to return to the top of European football.. Nope none come to mind
Seriously this guy would solve all our problems….
I think he’s worth 30m with a 15m (45m) inflation because he plays in Chelsea of course.
nah Chelsea would charge atleast 80 million
If Di Maria’s worth 45m he’s worth 45m.
yes but this is Chelsea’s most dangerous player he’s very young and better than Di Maria.
I wouldnt say he was any better than di Maria
I would even say he’s worse than Di Maria.
https://www.goal.com/en-us/rumours/last/24?ICID=HP_FT_1
Theres a rumor going around that Man City are willing to offer 32m pounds + either Dzeko or Kolarov for Pogba.
Not enough money Man City. Itll cost nothing less than 70m, with or without players included.
Idk that cavani offer that was in the rumour mill a while ago would’ve done for me with a lot lower than 70m. Maybe 32 plus aguero would do for city
You are way too easy giving Pogba away.
Because having a forward like cavani or aguero is going to raise the standard of the starting line up a great deal more than it would drop from not having pogba.
Or we can just work with our youth players. Remember we have great strikers out on loan?
Cavani haven’t been in his Napoli form for a long time now and Aguero would be too much trouble (costs too much and wages are too high like adp says).
And you underrate Pogba big time. Maybe he’s not that important factor in the team yet, but if he stays with us for a while, he will become one of those.
Not loan, co ownership.
Cavani has been played out of position, he has scored 7 in the 9 games he has been played in position.. I’d say that was pretty good form. Aguero has high wages yes, but do you really thing pogba is gonna want a low wage wage when teams like RM and PSG are going to be offering him more than aguero is earning at city? (Think about it..)
I don’t underrate him at all but you underrate the rest of our midfielders. Yes he’s good and has a lot of potential but for the money being mentioned plus a player like cavani or aguero we can become a much better team now and return to the top a lot faster and once we return there then our next player with loads of potential won’t see us at a stepping stone as pogba does but rather as his final destination.
It would be better if we could make this a final destination for Pogba. I know we can’t do that so easily as i wish we could though.
Maybe Cavani will refind his form if he’s at Juve since we can make him the #1 striker, which he can’t be at PSG as long as Ibra’s there, but i’ve seen him miss chances he would easily have made at Napoli. Is that just because he’s played out of position?
That would apply if Pogba is a moneywhore. I know it’s very rare nowadays, but i’m hoping he’s one of the few people who isn’t.
I would never underrate our midfielders. Pirlo is a maestro and is the most important player in our team and a unique player in the world. Vidal is imo one of the best and most complete midfielders in the world and i rate him higher than Pogba.
If i’m underrating anyone, it would be Cavani and Aguero. I don’t see them as important to the team as Pogba can be in the near future. Especially considering we ”co-own” some great youth players who i’m 100% sure we can get back if we really want to.
edit: before you’re gonna say i underrate Marchisio, i would be fine with Pogba leaving if i can be guarenteed Marchisio will regain his best form. Because you gotta admit that he hasn’t been on form for a long time now. It saddens me, but it’s true. If he can get back in his best form, we can have a worldclass midfield with MVP. But for now, Pogba is filling the role that Marchisio is leaving out when he’s having a bad match.
Without the funds from selling him we won’t be able to.. Kinda a shame that selling him may lead to him seeing us as a final destination club but thats how it works I guess.
Everyone misses the odd chance, Messi does it, Ronaldo does it and so does cavani. Cavani remains a WC striker and is on a different level to any of our current strikers (even if they are doing brilliantly)
I’m sorry but pogba does come across as the type to be a moneywhore. I hope he isn’t but it seems likely.
Even if pogba was to become the best midfielder in the world he still wouldn’t be as vital as having a top class finisher like those two as let’s face it we’ve seen that midfielders can’t carry a team as easily as a good striker. Our midfield carried us for two year but it wasn’t until we’ve got a couple of good strikers that we’ve been able to truly kill off games. We do co own some great younger player and I’m sure you’re aware of how highly i rate them but even I couldn’t say they are anywhere near the level of cavani or aguero
But what has Pogba done to come across as a moneywhore? He left United because he didn’t get enough playing time, not because of money. Despite Raiola flirting with names like Madrid and PSG, Pogba said he’s having fun in Turin. To me he comes across more like someone who wants to make the most of his football carreer.
Sure, everyone misses great chances, but Cavani did it too often lately. Don’t get me wrong, i would love to have Cavani. I prefer Cavani over Aguero easily. But then again it comes down to Marchisio. Our midfield won’t be complete without Pogba if Marchisio won’t regain his form. He has done better lately.
Aguero … LoL.
His wages are too high.
He’s a heck of a player though
there’s no arguing his ability but he’s too expensive for us
next season would you guys be happy with a second place finish in Serie A and a hardly fought (great performance but just losing to a superior opponent) CL QF elimination or maybe even a semifinal appearance if lucky and we convert to a back four again?
i can’t never be happy with that. we need to be that superior opponent
true but I rather go down putting up a hell of a fight vs RM, Bayern, BvB than to go out disgracefully to a loser team like gala…
Id be happy with second and a CL trophy
No
Hell no :p
can someone confirm here that Serie A is now the 5th best league in Europe now behind of Portugal, after the defeat to Benfica?
we are #5 now… when the season starts next year, we will be ranked 5th. confirmed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_coefficient
Are you sure? It seems Portugal is still miles behind us. This is the updated ranking because it says Italy has 0 clubs in it and Portugal has 1 club in it.
https://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/country/index.html
Says the same on UEFA website.
We are certain, we will be 5th but only for a season, the one season in which Portugal did better (considerably better at that) will be eliminated next year so unless they do a whole lot better than us next year we will regain 4th
But why doesn’t it say we are 4th? We’re 4000 points ahead of Portugal.
It’ll only update next season, the 5th years results will be wiped then and this years will come into effect
Going to pogba, he tends to be our best performer in big games. Take both RM legs and then the benfica games too. He completely destroyed madrid in both games. The same madrid that will prbly win the CL. That would be impressive for anyone, even more so considering he was only 20. Pogba will be one of the players who will be remembered for years to come by the entire football world. It would be a shame to lose him before he hits his prime. After vidal, I consider him the most untouchable player on the team. Hopefully the board does too.
“Destroyed” Madrid?
forgot midfield. he destroyed their midfield.
Destroy is quite a strong word. Its no secret that he was ours and probably the overall best midfielder of both legs, but he did fade away in the 2nd half on both occasions.