Yikes. Napoli spanked Juventus today though I feel as if the absence of Carlos Tevez was the crucial difference maker. Despite an angelic performance from Gianluigi Buffon, Juventus still gave up a couple of goals and more frustratingly failed to score.
Dries Mertens scored a beautiful goal to cap off Napoli’s win while Jose Callejon scored the initial goal. Let’s just rate the players and get the pain out of the way.
Buffon: 7.5. Countless saves, many of them magical. Buffon is undoubtedly the greatest goalkeeper in the world.
Chiellini: 6. Decent in defense, better going forward, but not spectacular in general. Napoli had plenty of chances so while the scoreline is harsh, the defenders did make many stops. Chiellini was actually off the field getting a jersey switch (he had been bloodied in the face) when Callejon scored.
Bonucci: 6.5. For the first time in a long time long ball Bonucci returned. He attempted 17 and made 14 long ball passes, so that was a highlight of an otherwise professional performance. Easily Juve’s best defender today.
Caceres: 6. Similar to performance to Chiellini but not as solid in defense. Found himself as the recipient of many passes as the midfielders look to kill time and keep possession, but wasn’t of much use otherwise.
Lichtsteiner: 6. Excellent in attack on both the left and right flank but a tad invisible while defending.
Asamoah: 6. Another player who had a fine match, but not a good match. Asamoah was very lively at times but came up short otherwise.
Isla (53′): 6.5. Isla was very dangerous today though he did blow a few chances in Napoli’s 18 yard box. Still, he was a very consistent outlet for Juve’s attack.
Vidal: 5.5. Had a scary moment early on when he seemed to injure his knee, but he played the entire match for better or for worse. Was definitely spooked by his injury scare early on, but even after he got over that he was too reactive. I can’t remember the last time this happened but he was not the leading tackler on the side today. Vidal must improve his form.
Pogba: 6.5. Pogba seemed ready to dish out genius whenever he touched the ball and he displayed his skill with the ball on several occasions, but he was taken off after 61 minutes. Had he played the entire game he may have created some magic.
Marchisio: (61′): 5.5. Rather poor today, and he made a terrible jumping/standing tackle attempt on Mertens right before Mertens scored. Obviously, the hybrid tackle did not work. We perhaps would have been better off substituting Pirlo for Marchisio – not that Pirlo played poorly – rather than taking Pogba off.
Pirlo: 6. Nothing spectacular from Andrea, and in fact he had several free kick opportunities that he did little with. Like many of his teammates he was fine, but not really very good.
Llorente: 5. Basically useless for most of the match. He had a few moments where he held up the ball well but overall he was very bad. Llorente-Osvaldo is a bad partnership, as neither of the two can really create anything for the other to react off of. Llorente played a bit better after Mirko Vucinic came on, but he was overall quite poor.
Osvaldo: 5. He wasn’t any better, although I am expecting to see him starting vs Lyon after he was taken off early in today’s match. Regardless, Osvaldo was poor today.
Vucinic (70′): 6. Came on and immediately had a decent effort, but never got to create a goal. For a player who hadn’t suited up in nearly two months he was excellent. Better luck next time, I guess. Lyon on Thursday is the next match and we have Tevez for that.
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people are reading too much into this. everyone has off games every now and then. factor in that we haven’t been able to rotate much due to injuries and are playing every 3 days and it’s no surprise we were fatigued.
The loss does not bother me, but the loss coming to Napoli does.
meh. they’re still a shit team
yup, exactly how i feel, but whatever, let their fans celebrate as if they won the CL.
I’m sure they will be celebrating this for a long time, and they should. Because next time they come to Turin, they’re gonna get humiliated.
loss doesnt bother me at all, ho frickity hum .. means nothing. we havent lost in forever in the league and it was a tough game in a tough stadium. we had to lose eventually. anyone who complains about this loss has no clue and is a idiot.
has no clue of what?
has no clue about football and the game – we havent lost since October in Serie A, so my point is they’ve been excellent for months and do not deserve any criticism for the loss .. we were bound to lose eventually so they should be applauded for the long run they went on.
sure, im sad because we played bad and we weren’t able to stop Napoli, the only thing working in our team was Buffon. i didn’t get the chance to watch the all match, i saw the first half and since the 65min. omg Isla is so bad
its ok, its our first loss in the league in 5 months, nothing to be upset about …
i actually don’t think isla is that bad, I just don’t think he’s a fit here and would be best for him and his career if he moved on. having said that, I’m sure he could catch on with another better than average sized club and be a good player… If I were him I wouldn’t stay.
You called Buffon a thing :/
I agree with the sentiment. We can’t win every game. Even barcalona at their best in an uncompetitive league such as la liga lost games against the bottom/mid tabled teams. We lost to a good Napoli team with a fatigued team. People on this site can be pathetic the way they act when we lose a game.
”in an uncompetitive league”
It’s 1 of the few leagues that still isn’t decided this season though.
You never do read properly do you Dutch? :p ‘Even Barcelona at their best’ Barcelona haven’t been at their best for a couple of seasons now. However it’s still a highly uncompetitive league.
Oh my bad. It is a competitive league right now though. Not if you look at all 20 teams, but at the top it’s a very good title race.
Yeah, I saw this coming a long way off. What goes up must come down. The boys will regain form.
so i went back to read the comments during the match and really guys, really? we re still with that black shorts thing? oh yea forget the fact that our team has looked physically inadequate for quite sometime or the fact that losing actually happens in football(i know right? such a baffling concept)… cuz you know its the black shorts. the existence of unicorns on a different planet is waaaay more likely than the curse of the black shorts! im just saying.
how do you know that there aren’t unicorns frolicking amongst other beautiful magical creatures on a different planet? hmmm?
because they are real. how do you explain rainbows!?
The rainbow is created by the sun. The inhabitants of the sun are unicorns.
Maybe the black shorts feed off a negative psychological feeling, after all black is not that happy of a color. I did some color psychology research for about 5min before, so I would say I’m an expert lol.
we had an all black kit last season.
Umm……. well uh. Illuminati, that’s why.
“The paranoia is in bloom
The P.R. transmissions will resume
They’ll try to push drugs to keep us all dumbed down
And hope that we will never see the truth around”
If it’s all black it will even out. If it’s 75% black and 25% white, it will give a negative feeling.
I think we should have used some youth and rested more players for the game against lyon
At least a loss with the resting of players is good for our favour
Should have played a 433 mostly youth and vidal( coz his suspended in the first leg) and
played vucinic and osvaldo and gio and let lorente rest
Btw we need to loose a game here and there so we can stay focused
so that Scuffet fella… who made his name known last week with his heroics against i***t apparently had another show stopping performance against Catania today. he made 7 saves and when reading my twitter feed, people seemed amazed at the types of saves he made.
Yeah he’s having a great run of form but people are too quick to hail young players, for us we need nobody but leali, he may not have played in serie a but in terms of goalkeeping he is top draw and has the potential to be buffons heir, all that we need to see from his now is the mental strength that players need in the top flight and top clubs.
leali will be in serie a next season and scuffet is going nowhere next season. the season after we can evaluate who we need. my money is on leali
No doubt leali will be in serie a but which team do you think he will be at? I’d like to see him at sassuolo if they manage to stay up, they actually have a pretty good team they just need more experience and for some of the newer players to gel.
We need Buffon’s heir in the Italian NT. If that’s Leali, we need him, if that’s Perin, we need him, if that’s Scuffet, we need him.
goal Livorno! 2-2
El Pelado!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IseFW7HuoPs
I LOVE YOU CÁCERES
I love you too!
ahahah
Philip, what are you doing on Rudy’s account? :O
Dont you mean martin?
Either one. Philip won’t care that Hanna said Caceres :p
the 2011/12 kits were the prettiest. also the number fonts!!
well of course! pink is awesome.
My love for Caceres is unquestioned. The all important question of the night: Assuming that both Barzagli and Caceres are match fit, who should be our starter? From what I have seen this season I say Caceres. Last season and before undoubtedly Barzagli, but Barzagli has slowed down considerably. Marco is not allowed to opine on this matter haha
id give it to Caceres. hes been solid enough for what ive seen and for the time being, Barzagli could use some extensive rest(even if its just a game or two). he along with the rest of our Italians have been playing for close to two years straight whilst having little to no rest in between due to the euros in 2012 and the confeds just last summer. may i also remind you all of the drill sergeant-esque coach that has been training them during this time.
I think that Barzagli should be the starter, but i don’t really know much about his form, i don’t remember his last matches. But Cáceres is solid, and not just has a CB, is much better than Isla as a RM
barzagli should start the bigger games but caceres has shown he deserves more playing time. factor in barzagli’s fitness issues and age, caceres should definitely be playing more.
i think that Cáceres have been playing a good amount of time since he joined us. he’s always Conte’s choice if one of the BBC don’t play
true but conte has overplayed BBC in the past. especially barzagli.
Caceres has being doing well but barzagli 100%. Caceres is far too error prone to be used in the big games.
I think it’s safe to say that with more playtime, he makes less mistakes.
Still makes too many and insigne was just all over him so proves he is to up to the task against the better teams.
Insigne never cut in successfully. Caceres cant help it if insigne sends in crosses from deep. Thats licht and vidals job to be closing in.
Insigne got the better of caceres a number of times.
he never got past him. he would do fancy tricks but either got dispossessed, passed it to an overlapping player, or passed it back. the goal that came from insigne’s cross was deep. licht or vidal shouldve been closing him down there
the Marc’s hate over Cáceres is strong
(this is off topic, so please ignore if you didnt enjoy that certain topic that created so much controversey)
Check. This. Out.
https://www.theverge.com/2014/3/31/5566854/pokemon-google-maps-april-fools-2014
Oh yeah I saw that you could actually catch them but there was none near me 🙁
I don’t blame them. They saw you and started running.
Screw you I have 82 now!!
You chased them and forced them into a pokeball, didn’t you?
there wasnt anywhere near me either! i was gonna leave my house at like 4 am just to go catch em all, but there were none!
82 now baby! 😉
only? you proud of that ?:p i had at the VERY least just under 200 before my ds broke 2 or 3 years ago.
Why oh why did you write ”Marco”? Now he still replied..
@topic, Barzagli should always start over Caceres.
For the record I’d rather we brought back Rugani or masi and played them over caceres at CB
Rugani should replace ogbonna. He’s been useless
Ogbonna had a bad start but the last few games hes played hen been the top rated defender on the pitch consistently, he not suited to playing on the right though. Ogbonna is exponentially better than caceres.
caceres has been far more solid than ogbonna. tbh, ogbonna is looking like a waste of 15mil. we could’ve gotten much better defenders for that money
Hater. How can they replace Caceres? They have nowhere near the experience he has. And you can’t deny Caceres has been doing rather good lately. He won’t be more than a backup in our team, but he is a solid one. Though he’s still better as a fullback or a wingback.
They don’t but having watched them they have more talent. He’s been okay lately but still not juventus standards
Thank heaven you don’t have Marotta’s job. If it was up to you, we would field Vidal and the Italy sub 21 squad.
Missed the game unfortunately, but after reading through the comments I mind it less. Still silly people blaming black shorts, ridiculous. Too bad we lost, especially against Napoli but oh well, only one more big league game remaining anyway, against Roma. Title should be ours, now hoping for a great game against Lyon
the only thing i like about the black shorts is i got to compare them to unicorns… we all know unicorns make everything better.
Even if it wears black shorts :p
Don’t you dare ruin that unicorn…
I don’t understand how you can still deny it. Every time we play with them, we lose and play bad.
I don’t understand how adult people can be so naive to blame curses either. Main colours are black and white, kinda logic that the shorts are one of those. Maybe we should ban the colour black, I’m sure we’ll go undefeated forever then
I think you are missing the point of being trolled… nobody believes in a curse, its just something funny to blame, that some people get all defensive about.
This isn’t trolling anymore, there are ppl who actually believe this shit
I wasn’t trolling to begin with, i just found it funny when someone mentioned it for the first time and it’s funny how it happens over and over. I’m just joking man. Can’t believe you of all people don’t get that.
oh wow, you actually were trolling. you were so committed to the joke i actually believed you :p
I am always committed to my jokes. They are an important thing in life.
Wasn’t referring to you either, I know you’re messing around, but you’re the only one who commented about it so had to react on you 😛
Ah. I am proud of you!
i feel like Dutch truly believes the “curse”
Don’t you? :/
no! :p how do black shorts play such an influential role in us getting negative results.
Good question. To get that answer the first thing you have to find out is, was it a wizard or a witch that cast the curse. When you found that out, you’ll know if you have to search for a male or a female wizard.
i think it was a witch, those b*tches are always messing with innocent civilians.
Good point :p Now you need to close down a place where she could be. Tip: look at Hogwarts.
It’s funny how they actually started believing i believe that shit.
”Maybe we should ban the colour black, I’m sure we’ll go undefeated forever then”
Yes yes YES!!! Now you are talking!!! 😀
We won our last game with black shorts before Napoli
We call that a lucky shot :p I bet we played terrible though.
We did :p just as we did the last few weeks. We played a lot of games tho, even Conte said he probably should’ve rotated more. God i really hope we’ll see another youth player this season, but that’s his call
so rumors are now saying that Conte could be set to replace Wenger….
shalt we engage in hysterical laughter?
Maybe in like 5 years
i would let conte go if he doesnt win the europa league.
this team is built for europe, and if he cant win in europe, then it’s best for everyone to move on .. at the end of the day, he isn’t god. period.
and besides, I would hope conte can master the english language – i don’t see him being successful in england if there is a language barrier when he’s trying to coach and impose his will. if he cant feel comfortable when he’s communicating, then he wont have the success he has had here…
His next gig will be coach of the nazionale once prandelli retires.. hopefully by then, gilardino, montolivo and aquilani will be gone forever.. if i see those bags of shit in brazil playing for the azzurri, I’m going to barf all over my tv set.
Borriello, Matri, Motta and ofc PADOIN making the Italy squad, how exciting would that be?
Without conte, we’d still be struggling to make europe. He has put us far ahead of schedule. You cant expect a team that was practically recreated less than 3 years ago and is actually following ffp to become a european giant. Dont forget we made QF last year and only went out to the best team in the world. And, while they fully deserved it, they got very lucky against us. One bad season in europe and you want the guy who built this team to go out? Thats ridiculous.
i agree with you 100% .. but we need to be a force in europe again. and he needs to re-adjust and adapt to the european games… dont mistake me for ever not loving conte and having a man crush on him, i do, i’m just saying – he needs to now win in europe, he’s done the italy thing 3 times in a row, it’s only natural to progress to the next step.
true. but it’s hard on conte when the only winger in the squad has been injured for two years, we sold our back up cm in giak and didn’t get a replacement so conte is having to make do with 4 cm. this summer, marotta will definitely have to get a couple good wingers and another cm too. that’ll help conte a lot.
”I’m going to barf all over my tv set.”
I think i’m not alone when i say i would love to see that.
i wouldnt let go of Conte regardless of us winning or not winning the europa league. yea this season was crap and huge let down, but its just one season and it seems as if Conte has been failing for many years with how so many have reacted and still are reacting.
this team is still incomplete and not yet built to the same capacity as the powerhouse teams of europe that you d expect to constantly succeed in europe. im not saying we cant compete against them, cuz we can, but it ll be more difficult down the road. our strongest position, the midfield, is still so narrow. im not trying to justify the terrible european season, but this team is yet to be a finished product and be able to fully keep up with the top european teams. again, im not saying we cant, but it will be more difficult for use because of the fatigue factor.
they didn’t need to be a power house team to get outta that group stage.. they didn’t make it out of the group stage and I blame conte for that .. you know my thoughts on that. we have to worry about the power houses in the later rounds, not in the easier group stages with teams like copenhagen and gala. he fielded his “B” players in their most important games of the season, that’s why they are out… he’s a master at serie a, but I honestly think he just doesn’t “get it” when it comes to europe, nor will he ever… their ambition is to win europe so he will only have so many cracks at the can before a change is needed.. they better win europa league, if they don’t, the blame will squarely be on Conte – With the massive lead they have in the scudetto race, most of their energies should now be focused on winning a european trophy. anything less, will be considered surplus to an already wasted season.
you make great points, but when you say Conte doesnt really care much about europe, i just cant believe it or maybe i dont want to believe it. that B team shouldve been more than capable of beating Copenhagen and Gala. but i know thats not your point. youre saying that Conte shouldve fielded his strongest players and blatantly made it clear that Europe is far more important than serie a.
well anyways, in my first reply, i was trying make a point on why we shouldnt let go of Conte regardless of what happens in the europa league. i know i did a pretty poor job of getting that point across. tho im not saying Conte that shouldnt be blamed if we dont blame win it, but then again, i feel all the blame shouldnt fall on him.
you’re ok, i love the banter with you … you’re a knowledgeable and diplomatic dude, keep up the good work.
i enjoy our debates too. difference in opinion and diversity is a beautiful thing. plus your brutal honesty and the colorful ways in which you describe things always have me laughing.
Thank you!
I’m tired of the stigma we have that we can only win in Italy – this stench of it follows us around like a crazy ex girl friend. I want to prove everyone wrong, I want the CL Trophy.. If Bayern could do it while playing in a one team league, there’s no reason we can’t do it either .. If PSG is a favorite to win the CL and they play in a crappy french league, then surely we can be considered favorites to win it too … and I think we’re just as good as any top english team out there .. i really do. this is what makes our early exit this year even more painful to stomach.
yea. the feeling of not being in the Cl is a painful one and every time i am reminded that we only have two Cl’s, i get upset. we should be up there with Madrid.
winning the league two seasons ago was beautiful, but like you, i understand we shouldnt be overly satisfied with winning it over and over again. league titles in general arent that big of a deal anymore for a team of our caliber. im not expecting to win the Cl every year, but getting out so early in the Cl is quite disgraceful
Off topic…..new england shirts for the world cup…£90!!!…they will only be wearing them for just over a week lol
The new Netherlands shirts are also around that price.
Hearing Cassano missing for ROMA V PARMA?????LOL injured my ass
Did u guys see diego’s goal against barca
Amazing goal.
Man u actually drew against Bayern? i expected Bayern to tear Man U a new one.
I was certainly hoping for that.. Here’s to the second leg!
here here!!
@Zarolio:disqus i’d want leali at sassuolo but it doesn’t look like they’ll stay up. i’ve read rumors of empoli being interested. that’d be great since him and rugani can form a good understanding.
Yeah it seems more and more unlikely with every game which is a shame because I think if they survive they could have at least got a mid table finish next season. But yeah Empoli would be a great place for him too with the presence of Rugani. That is if they are promoted of course, they’re in 3rd place at the moment so it’s far from guaranteed.
https://football-italia.net/47245/borussia-bid-immobile
Borussia are stepping up their interest in Immobile. Personally, letting Immobile go would be the worst bit of business since George Martinez gave us 12.5m reasons why he was a bum.
yea i really dont want to let him go. if management wants to leave Immobile in Torino for one more season so he can solidify his form with consistent playing time, id be ok with that, but i dont want to let him go. even now i feel like he could give Llorente a run for his money.
if theyre gonna leave Immobile in Torino for another season, they should just buy all of him now and send him on a year long loan back there. that way, we dont have to pay a more expensive price for him next year. but im really hoping we bring him back next season.
Immobile is already better than Llorente. Llorente is a super sub kind of player at a big club. He’s someone you put on late, when you are going to be playing more crosses, corners, and FKs, because he’s tall, good at heading, and good at holding onto the ball.
I would also rather keep Immobile, but if he goes for a good price I would be kinda okay with it. I like Immobile and really want him, but deep down inside I’m not convinced he can carry the Juve attack.
He’s also not really a youngster anymore (even if he’s considered as one in Serie A with his 24(?) years)
I dunno, if we get a decent price out of it or a good player in exchange, I would be okay with it. We have so many promising attackers lined up anyway, each one talented and even younger (Berardi, Zaza, Boakye, Gabbiadini…)
They say Immobile could be available for as little as 12m. I wouldnt even consider an offer of less than 20m. If he was English or Spanish, teams would be lining up with offers of 25-30m.
Yuck 12m is indeed a meagre offer
i dont get how he’s only worth 12 million euro’s tho …? In england, everyone is worth a minimum of 15 million pounds, players that aren’t even half as good as him.
juve and torino both value him around 20mil though
damn 8.1 earthquake hit Chile and the possibilities of a tsunami are up in the air(reportedly).
new website looks great by the way!
congrats for the work and effort into the website
nice back – looks great 🙂
yes it does
its enough to distract me from paying attention to juventus – shame on you.. 🙂
you just need to pay attention tomorrow eheh
can you show us the front if they beat Lyon tomorrow?
hehe…….
looking good babes !
Eww.. Wtf? How cringey.
dont be jealous … lol
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@adp Creeeepeeeer lol @Hanna: my email address is….JK Jk lol apparantly there is a little Phillip in some us.
Isn’t there a little Phillip in all of us? Deep down..
not me… im a gentlemen!
Juventus and women are my two favorite things …
Lol bro if u wanna see tits there is always porn, where u don’t have to ask the girl to show her tits in front of an entire forum lol but I give you props that was brave haha
Hanna will slap him.
bro ..i look at porn everyday – thanks for the tip. Lol.
Hahahahaha
Philip?….
who’s phillip?
Oh happy day! FIFA banned Barcelona from making any transfers in the next two transfer windows for signing and using minor foreign players. Great work FIFA!
Now if only they’d relegate them for all the financial aid they’ve misused it would be just perfect.
oi terrible timing for Barca. werent a bunch of Barca veterans about to leave?
Yeah but since they’ve already illegitimately signed all these younger players it won’t make too much of a difference
those transfers are actually going through?
I assume they already have, I don’t think they have been reversed since some are from 2009
but they were under false pretenses. they should have to reverse it… unless there s some sort of statute of limitations.
They can’t really do that though, some of them may have moved on to other clubs and stuff too so it’s just not possible to reverse the deals
true, true
Apparently the Ter Stegen deal is off now, even though it was already completed (not 100%sure)
Well Valdes and Puyol and that was it I believe 😛
i thought Xavi too
Don’t think he’s stopping yet
oh i mean leave for the MLS
Yeah I know, don’t think he’s leaving yet. Kaka wants to go to the MLS, I think Xavi will stay at least one more year, especially now that they can’t transfer replacements in
Valdes will probably stay too now. Otherwise they’d have to put Pinto in goal untill they can sign again. He is injured for a while though. And they won’t be able to get a good defender to replace Puyol.
Valdes contract is done after this season though, so they have to re-sign him, which would be an incoming transfer, no? 😛
i think that they can’t only buy players U-19
No it applies to senior players also
But they can appeal it. And 99.9% chance is that theyll get it repealed
If the appeal works, FIFA will be the biggest joke ever. They’ve set the first step to finally do something against this shitty modern football, they’ve gotta keep this up. Next up: ban the sheiks!
And dissolve Inter! Right? 😀
Pogba for Cavani + cash now, with rumors saying Cavani isn’t happy in France
That would be the most amazing deal imaginable, not sure if PSG are actually that stupid though
read that too. i think its due to Ibra being the more focal striker.
if that offer is real, id jump at that opportunity.
it would be a great deal, although i’ll miss Pogba
Think so too but PSG would be literally braindead to let Cavani go, Ibra is in the last year of his contract and he ain’t getting younger. Seems like everyone agrees on this, it would be a great deal 😛 Tho I would really miss Pogboom
I love pogba but id do that in a heart beat
Seems like every time I’m coming back today, the site gets better and better. Good job!
I wouldnt be suprised if conte sacks the europa league and focuses on the league since roma are only 8 pts behind us nw with 7 games remaining ……
I think they’ll go hard on Lyon, losing to Napoli will have stung
they should be going hard… why wouldn’t they? they have to.
Exactly, goals are essential in away games
Have you seen our run in? Aside from the head to head it’s pretty straight forward and should allow us to concentrate on the EL. 8 points with 7 games is one heck of a gap.
Thanks for writing this. Saves me time because i wanted to say the exact same thing. There’s no way we’re gonna give this away and i think tomorrow Conte will be serious.
(now i still wasted my time writing this) :p
But it was in reply to me, replying to me is never a waste of time :p
Even in the worst case scenario, losing to Roma, we still have 5 point lead with 6games to go, with not a single top opponent. That leaves some space for errors but its all in Juve’s hands, it should be our title.
agreed bro, its a huge lead with 7 games.. the league should be speakig with conte outlining the importance of winning the fucking thing… Serie A needs the coefficient points and have to win a euro trophy … my oh my, if we fall behind france and portugal, that will be so pathetic.
I don’t think we are in much danger of dropping below either of them fortunately. It’s based on a 5 year coefficient and the only time that france have got a better coefficient than us will be wiped out next year and same goes for Portugal in 2 years. As for this year we somehow have a 5 point gap over either.. Not sure how but I’m not complaining.
and i dont get this whole focusing on one thing and forgetting about the other – umm, the elite, really good teams win everything they compete for – bayern won a treble, inter won one etc etc .. im sure barca has one too. surely, juventus has the resources, players and and fucking lead in serie a to win both the league and Europa League. they shouldn’t have to sacrifice one or the other, barca and bayern don’t go into competitions with that mentality. they just win.
thats small club mentality.
we’re not a small club……….
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