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Why Selling Arturo Vidal is the Right Move

July 19, 2015 - 9:52 am

As word seeped through the footballing landscape that Bayern Munich had agreed a fee with Juventus over the transfer of Arturo Vidal, fans of the Bianconeri on various social media websites couldn’t quite comprehend what they were reading. It all happened so quickly, there was none of the dragged out speculation that surrounded the Chilean last summer over a proposed deal to Manchester Utd. This was swift action from the German club.

Yet despite the fact that Juve are unquestionably underselling one of the best box to box midfielders in world football – €37million is simply too low a figure for a player of Vidal’s quality – to a European rival to boot, and regardless of the protestations of the Juve faithful. Beppe Marotta, Fabio Paratici and co. are ultimately making the right call in moving King Arturo on. It’s time to cash in.

In his four years with the club, Vidal has developed into a cornerstone of the current Juve side. He’s been the clubs’ best box-to-box midfielder since Edgar Davids departed 12 years ago, matching the legendary Dutchman’s tenacity and all action style. The case is arguable that he is right up there alongside Antonio Conte and Andrea Pirlo as a signing that swung the pendulum in Juve’s favour over the last several years. He dominated every single midfielder he came into battle with in Serie A (with maybe the exception of Radja Nainggolan).

Yet last season was without question his worst in a black and white shirt, he labored through most of the season, and you felt he never regained full fitness from his knee surgery and his rushed return to make the World Cup for Chile. His play was sloppy at times and he seemed sluggish throughout a lot of games. There are still question marks over the condition of his knee.

As the season reached its climax and with the club on the verge of a historic treble, the Vidal we all knew returned, he began to dominate games once more and scored the title-clinching goal in Genoa against Sampdoria. He then played an instrumental part in Chile winning their first Copa America weeks later including being named man of the match in the final.

Since the Champions League loss to Barcelona on June 6th, Juve have seen two key players in Andrea Pirlo and Carlos Tevez both leave Turin, now with Vidal about to follow them out of the exit door, fans are understandably becoming anxious.

At this stage nobody knows if Vidal wanted to leave the club or if they decided to move him on, Agnelli and Marotta are in no doubt mindful of what happened to Milan and Inter in the late ‘00s when they held on to too many key members of their Champions League winning sides, instead of injecting fresh blood into the squad who would keep motivation levels high – both sides have never recovered, for various reasons it must be said.

The truth of the matter is irrespective of how loved Vidal is by the fans, his time has come. A player with his characteristics generally doesn’t last a long time at the highest level in the game. The aforementioned Davids had already peaked by the time he departed Juve aged 30 in 2004, the snarling pitbull was no longer so snarling.

Ten years ago this month Juventus bought a 29 year-old Patrick Vieira from Arsenal, feeling they had got a great deal at only £13million, but Arsene Wenger knew that the French behemoth’s legs were waning and wasn’t the dominating midfielder he had been. Getting destroyed by a young Cesc Fabregas in the Champions League quarter final at Highbury epitomised his only season at Juventus.

Realistically Vidal has only one or two more seasons left to play at the level Juve fans have come to expect of him, and one surmises that he doesn’t have the intelligent acumen to modify his game in the way Paul Scholes did for Man Utd when age caught up with him and his dynamism vanished. This is the clubs’ last chance to make a hefty profit.

Juventini have been making assertions that the club has never sold someone in their prime who was so integral to the team, but that isn’t necessarily true. Twenty years ago this summer Juventus got rid of Roberto Baggio, despite still being one of the best players in the world. Yes he had an injury plagued 1994/95 but if he was healthy, he started, the team was rightfully built around his genius yet was moved on.

A year later Fabrizio Ravanelli, then the same age Vidal is now and a vital component of Marcello Lippi’s Champions League winning team, was sold to Middlesbrough in the summer of 1996, Paulo Sousa was also shipped off the same summer, another key member.

Fast forward five years later and Zinedine Zidane was sold to Real Madrid, Zizou didn’t always deliver for Juve in the way he did for France but one could make the case that he was Juventus at the time in which he was sold, especially in the years post Del Piero’s injury. Everything ran through him, and we all know what happened with the money from his transfer.

So important players have indeed been sold by the club in the past, the crucial factor now is how Beppe Marotta reacts. The club surely recognises that they need to make a big splash in order to appease fans.

A Juan Cuadrado alone isn’t going to cut the mustard; even speculation of contacts with Schalke for the highly talented Julian Draxler mightn’t be enough ease Vidal’s departure. You imagine only a Gotze, an Ozil or an Isco would satisfy the fans and you can’t see the club sanctioning this deal without an ace or two up their sleeves. Either way Allegri will finally get his much sought-after trequartista.

At this stage it’s hard to assess if the gamble of selling Vidal will pay off, The Old Lady got it right with so many players in the past, but that was a different era and this is now a different Juventus.

The king has been sold, long live the king.

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    BelgianJuventino July 19, 2015 at 10:59 am

    Sadly enough, it’s all true what we read here. Forza Vidal

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    ho Hi July 19, 2015 at 11:29 am

    A new beginning. I hope for Isco so much.

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      adp1974 July 19, 2015 at 10:11 pm

      Me too …. he would be the ultimate coup, much more than Goetze or Oscar – But there’s no chance Isco is leaving Madrid to go anywhere.

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      adp1974 July 19, 2015 at 10:12 pm

      And no shot that Oscar is leaving Chelsea to go anywhere..

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        ho Hi July 20, 2015 at 3:25 am

        But there has to come a star.

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    tpick July 19, 2015 at 1:00 pm

    Now we just need to buy Gotze, steal Allan from Napoli and buy a LB, and our team will be complete.

    Licht-Bon-Chi-LB (Caceres, Padoin x Barzagli, Caceres, Rugani x Caceres, Rugani x Evra, Asamoah, Padoin)

    Khedira-Marchisio-Pogba (Allan, Pereyra, Sturaro, Asamoah, Padoin)

    —Gotze (Pereyra, Coman)

    Morata-Dybala (Manj, Zaza, Coman)

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      JuveMarchisio July 20, 2015 at 6:55 am

      Asamoah IN, Khedira OUT

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        tpick July 20, 2015 at 1:33 pm

        Mail me some of the drugs youre on. They must be good. haha

        Khedira is much better than Asamoah.

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          JuveMarchisio July 20, 2015 at 7:10 pm

          It’s Some ghanasian shit 😉 we Will see though 😉 not that sure Khedira Will be great .. Good transfer though

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        JuveMondo July 20, 2015 at 2:48 pm

        Khedira is a world cup winner and Asamoah is coming off a season ending injury.

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    EricJuve July 19, 2015 at 1:08 pm

    If Juve are to sell Vidal now is the right time.

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    EricJuve July 19, 2015 at 1:12 pm

    Asamoah should be sold to buy a left fullback.

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      JuveMarchisio July 19, 2015 at 4:44 pm

      Vidal out .. Then Asamoah can be his replacement

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      Peter July 20, 2015 at 7:47 am

      No.

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    tpick July 19, 2015 at 3:31 pm

    https://football-italia.net/69419/llorente-close-madrid

    Llorente close to joining Real Madrid. Give us Morata 100%, no buyback, and he’s all yours, Real.

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      DutchJuve July 19, 2015 at 8:48 pm

      Whats Madrid suppose to do with Llorente?

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        tpick July 19, 2015 at 10:18 pm

        Warm benches and score headers. And waste a position on the field for 60-75 min a game.

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          Peter July 20, 2015 at 7:47 am

          More like 30-25 min a game. I can’t see him as a starter behind Benzema.

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    JosephVitale July 19, 2015 at 4:14 pm

    https://football-italia.net/69425/guardiola-%E2%80%98gotze-down-club%E2%80%A6%E2%80%99

    im starting to believe this deal can happen

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    adp1974 July 19, 2015 at 10:10 pm

    Ozil?

    No fuckin way … He sucks.

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      tpick July 19, 2015 at 10:21 pm

      Id rather start Christian Poulsen at attacking mid.

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        Juventin1897 July 20, 2015 at 12:48 am

        No dont say shit like that. Those were miserable times.

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          ho Hi July 20, 2015 at 3:25 am

          Those were horror times.

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        dinodelfino July 20, 2015 at 1:06 pm

        He is class dude.Hope your well man!

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    JuveMarchisio July 20, 2015 at 6:53 am

    lichtsteiner bonucci chiellini evra – marchisio pogba asamoah – gotze – mandzukic dybala ain’t that bad 😉

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      ho Hi July 20, 2015 at 7:38 am

      Morata?

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        JuveMarchisio July 20, 2015 at 8:52 am

        I know 😉 but iT’s quiet unthinkable that mand en dyb Will be benched after spending that kind of money.. I presume allegri Will rotate Often like he did with Llorente

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          BelgianJuventino July 20, 2015 at 10:45 am

          Morata is a starter for sure

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          ho Hi July 20, 2015 at 8:35 pm

          This year Marchisio will finally rises out the ashes and will be not anymore the underrated.

          I still think Juve must get a star. Like the times of Zidane/ Nedved.
          Who will come?

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    Peter July 20, 2015 at 7:56 am

    “Why selling X is the right move” – I don’t like articles like this. You could literally change the name at some points, and it would still work.

    “Realistically Marchisio has only one or two more seasons left to play at the
    level Juve fans have come to expect of him…”

    “The truth of the matter is irrespective of how loved Chiellini is by the
    fans, his time has come. A player with his characteristics generally
    doesn’t last a long time at the highest level in the game.”

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      BelgianJuventino July 20, 2015 at 11:15 am

      Yeah that is pretty much what i thought as well, there is always some truth in this, but it could apply to anyone. The only specific thing here is Vidals knee injury, which did have a big influence on him last season.

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    JuveMarchisio July 20, 2015 at 8:54 am

    Zlatan to Milan .. I like ! Great for THE serie A .. Hopefully more stars wil come ..

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      dinodelfino July 20, 2015 at 1:05 pm

      They need him mate.

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      Lidin Najera July 20, 2015 at 4:36 pm

      Do you think Bacca & Adriano will take Milan back to glory? Obviously I want our beloved juve to be top but I’d like to see Milan back where they belong as they always represent Italy well.

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        BelgianJuventino July 21, 2015 at 5:49 am

        Pretty sure it’s a huge upgrade, but they should mainly look at defenders, their current defense is a joke. Their attack wasnt really the problem

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    Michael McHugh July 20, 2015 at 9:11 am

    I really hate when transfers are drawn out and we start to be linked with every second player.

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    dinodelfino July 20, 2015 at 1:05 pm

    Hello lads,i know i haven’t been on much lately,and hope your all well?Well what a summer!Transfers galore!Im gonna miss Tevez like hell,and Vidal if he goes.

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      Lidin Najera July 20, 2015 at 4:34 pm

      I’m heartbroken about tevez.. he filled in that number 10 so good ADP would’ve been proud

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        DutchJuve July 21, 2015 at 5:18 pm

        He’s not dead xD

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          Lidin Najera July 21, 2015 at 5:23 pm

          Haha I know but I loved him at Juve. But hey he performed for us so he deserves to be happy and be in Argentina

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    JuveMondo July 20, 2015 at 2:44 pm

    Well now we know that Vidal asked to leave. Shame especially since he said he wanted to stay here for a long time. If he never said that then I would have no problem. But life goes on and Allegri said he wants a player who is offensive minded and Marotta said Gotze fits the bill. Let’s hope we can work out this deal w/ Bayern

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    JuveMondo July 20, 2015 at 3:02 pm

    Rav, you should do an article for press conferences! lots of good stuff from it

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    Peter July 20, 2015 at 4:23 pm

    Seems like another player is sold, only because they wanted to leave. Same will happen with Pogba if he wants to leave one day.

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      JuveMondo July 20, 2015 at 4:44 pm

      Marotta did say that if a player wants to leave they will be dealt with but he also said that Pogba is happy here and he basically said that he is untransferable right now. Everyone already talks like he will be gone next year but he can pave his own legacy with Juve. If he moves to Barca or Real he will still be in the shadow of others. Obviously I’m just trying to be optimistic tho

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      ho Hi July 20, 2015 at 8:20 pm

      That sounds critical.

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        Peter July 20, 2015 at 9:00 pm

        All I’m saying is, no matter what rumours we read about Pogba or others, they won’t be sold unless they ask to leave.

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    Lidin Najera July 20, 2015 at 4:32 pm

    Hi guys I’ve been reading this forum for years now. Been a juve, Italy & Mexico fan my entire life 🙂
    What do you guys think of Hector Herrera from mexico/Porto? He has a ton of heart and Grinta I think he could be a good fit for our combative midfield.

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      BelgianJuventino July 20, 2015 at 7:30 pm

      A good player, but I’m not sure he would be up to play for a team like Juve, but dont know him well enough in all honesty!

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        Lidin Najera July 20, 2015 at 9:54 pm

        He plays for FC Porto he’s fantastic imo. He scored 3 and assisted 5 goals in the UCL this season I think he’d be a good addition to our team 🙂

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          BelgianJuventino July 21, 2015 at 5:43 am

          Do you see him starting here? I just don’t know him enough, I’ve heard the name, but besides that I’m quite unfamiliar with him

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            Lidin Najera July 21, 2015 at 7:26 am

            He took Europe and the UCL by storm, he’s very mature I think he could do well.
            Who am I kidding we’re not even linked to the guy lol.. What do you think of Vidal leaving? I would be very happy if De Bruyne Replaces him

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            BelgianJuventino July 21, 2015 at 10:05 am

            I don’t like Vidal leaving, he’s the engine in the team and I don’t see who will replace that, we’ll have to see how the team does when they are in a bad game and need to step it up. No warrior like Vidal and no saving grace from Pirlo anymore.

            Financially/commercially, this was the best time to sell him though, he won’t get any more expensive.

            I love De Bruyne, as he is a star for Belgium, but I don’t think he would fit in at Juve, it wouldn’t suit him. At least, that’s what I think

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            Lidin Najera July 21, 2015 at 5:26 pm

            Yeah I agree with the Vidal money issue.. This is the most we’ll ever get for him.
            De Bruyne could do well for Allegri in the Trequartista role it will be interesting to see how the board decides to fill in that number 10 role. I’m hoping for De Bruyne or Isco. What about left back? Who would you like to see there?

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            BelgianJuventino July 22, 2015 at 6:27 am

            For LB either some promising talent, like this Baba is supposed to be, or someone like Rodriguez from Wolfsburg, Murru or go crazy and get Coentrao..

            I think we should get Berardi and none of Isco, Oscar, Gotze, Draxler and so on

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            Lidin Najera July 21, 2015 at 5:27 pm

            On another note I like this Belgian player Hans Vanaken quite a bit. What do you think of him?

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            BelgianJuventino July 22, 2015 at 6:25 am

            Even I don’t know this name 😛 You sure he isn’t Dutch?

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      DutchJuve July 21, 2015 at 5:16 pm

      Since you support them, are you from Mexico?

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        Lidin Najera July 21, 2015 at 5:22 pm

        No I’m from the U.S I live in Texas. But my parents and my whole family immigrated to the states so that’s where the love for Mexico comes from, I have a soft spot for the U.S if they’re not competing against Mexico or Italy.

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    CabraJP July 20, 2015 at 6:20 pm

    For now the administration has gained our trust, and as long as things are going the way they are going, i will trust.

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      JuveMondo July 20, 2015 at 7:11 pm

      Yep thats why I’m trying to refrain from judgement until the end of the season

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    ho Hi July 20, 2015 at 8:27 pm

    I still think
    morata dybala
    Mandzukic
    we dont need götze. Whats with Pereyra?
    but what is when juve put 60 mil for isco?

    And Sturaro will be the new Vidal.

    Pogba will stay forever.
    Khedira will be simply fantastic.
    Kopf hoch. Juve.

    Its strange time right now. But we are Juve and we are who we are. I think Dybaka will the bomb.

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      Marc Palumbo August 10, 2016 at 10:13 pm

      I just saw this… “Pogba will stay forever.”

      I won’t even comment any further.

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        ho Hi August 11, 2016 at 6:19 am

        Sign of times

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    Moderator July 20, 2015 at 8:35 pm

    Sorry all – had to start a new thread as theres some BS news about Juve looking at Draxler, Gotze and De Bruyne. All nonsense….but at least now it’s reported and done. Nothing much else this week expected except for the friendly this weekend.